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| Shocking.
And even more shocking is that under the RFL's disciplinary procedure it has been charged as an offence normally worthy of a 2-3 match ban.
The rules and procedures need a massive overhaul, the disciplinary system is a joke. Whether it's the ridiculously lenient treatment of Leeds players or anomalies like this, the whole system is in disrepute.
Mind you, this is all part of a disturbing picture - whether it's an oversight like the omission of Manu from the Exiles squad list, referees who can't count and who send the wrong player off or the failure of the RFL and its licensing process and the salary cap to ensure the financial stability of SL clubs - you really do have to ask whether the RFL is "fit for purpose".
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| Its the worst challenge since Cassidy did Morley in 1998, absoulutely disgusting, the worst bit is that after he does it he looks back at the Fev player with a smug face. Absoulute coward of the highest order. 6 games minimum, if I remember correctly Cassidy got 8.
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| The 'English' 'Man of Steel' repays the game in a way that no-one will ever forget.
They, in turn, repay that by giving him the minimum punishment.
Lads like Hock, who've never done anything as bad as that, must wonder what they did wrong in a former life.
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| What really irritates me is the face he pulls after the hit, he must know he's smashed his jaw in yet he turns around with a self contented face. Do we really want this player representing our country?
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| From what I've read Ropati is going to struggle for income as his work permit restricts him to playing rugby and the way his contract work means he is going to earn little or no income for the next few months. If I was him I'd take out a private prosecution again Chase or Cas for loss of earnings and damages.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"From what I've read Ropati is going to struggle for income as his work permit restricts him to playing rugby and the way his contract work means he is going to earn little or no income for the next few months. If I was him I'd take out a private prosecution again Chase or Cas for loss of earnings and damages.'"
But wouldnt that mean that a court would have to prove intent and it was a malicious act, which would then mean Chase is guilty of assault. I think it was a bad tackle but not for the courts to get involved with otherwise it would be happening everyweek in amateur rugby you would hope that as a professional sports player he would ensure he is covered to play and so will be covered
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"From what I've read Ropati is going to struggle for income as his work permit restricts him to playing rugby and the way his contract work means he is going to earn little or no income for the next few months. If I was him I'd take out a private prosecution again Chase or Cas for loss of earnings and damages.'"
Surely the Sports Insurance these guys take out would provide him with a good whack. Might look at what i would get off my policy if i got an injury like this.
Not taking away from what was a shocking 'tackle' by the way.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"From what I've read Ropati is going to struggle for income as his work permit restricts him to playing rugby and the way his contract work means he is going to earn little or no income for the next few months. If I was him I'd take out a private prosecution again Chase or Cas for loss of earnings and damages.'"
I'm not a legal expert by any means but if Ropati did win his case for loss of earnings against Chase would it not open the flood gates for claims of a similar nature?
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"I'm not a legal expert by any means but if Ropati did win his case for loss of earnings against Chase would it not open the flood gates for claims of a similar nature?'"
pROBABLY BUT A MAN'S GOT TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR HIM AND HIS FAMILY (oops caps lock)
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| When I initially saw the challenge at full speed it didnt look that bad, when I saw Ropati on the sidelines bleeding from the mouth I knew straight away it wouldnt have been a legal tackle. What a scumbag. Hes lost the respect of everyone in NZ and hes quickly losing the respect of everyone over here too.
So glad we didnt sign him, he would have been an absolute failure at Wigan.
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"I'm not a legal expert by any means but if Ropati did win his case for loss of earnings against Chase would it not open the flood gates for claims of a similar nature?'"
probably....but it might also open the floodgates of players stopping going out to injure opponents like this little coward.
disgusting...should be banned from representing England for a couple of years as well, to send out a message to thugs masquerading as rugby players
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| Quote ="Pemps"pROBABLY BUT A MAN'S GOT TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR HIM AND HIS FAMILY (oops caps lock)'"
I agree completely, I've seen the image of his broken jaw and it's shocking. When walking onto a rugby field you shouldn't have to expect that sort of thuggery.
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| How many matches did Hock get for gauging?
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| he will no doubt be treated the same as Dean Sampson, he got nothing for a deliberate elbow that broke Skerretts jaw...and on slow mo replays you can see the intent/aggression on his face as he raises his elbow..
"Dean Sampson breaks Kelvin Skerrett's jaw" on a certain video download site
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| It looked even worse in real time,he had been effectively taken out of the game and you could see his frustration growing . I think he is allegedly on some kind of suspended prison sentence in NL for asault. Coward in my eyes. Mind you there are some cas fans defending him , not all but some.
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| Quote ="cushler"It looked even worse in real time,he had been effectively taken out of the game and you could see his frustration growing . I think he is allegedly on some kind of suspended prison sentence in NL for asault. Coward in my eyes. Mind you there are some cas fans defending him , not all but some.'"
He has a suspended prison sentence for breaking a mans jaw in a pub fight , he clearly is an exceptional Rugby player but I don't want him representing our country and taking places from home grown British talent.
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| Quote ="cushler"It looked even worse in real time,he had been effectively taken out of the game and you could see his frustration growing . I think he is allegedly on some kind of suspended prison sentence in NL for asault. Coward in my eyes. [uMind you there are some cas fans defending him[/u , not all but some.'"
You'll get that with 'home' fans. There were people on here defending Hock after his gauge and I'm sure there would have been people defending Cassidy's 'tackle' on Morley if the internet had been around then. Par for the course really.
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"He has a suspended prison sentence for breaking a mans jaw in a pub fight
, he clearly is an exceptional Rugby player but I don't want him representing out country and taking places from home grown British talent.
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Agree with most of that mate, but after seeing him perform against our part timers I'm not sure he is that "exceptional" a very good championship player maybe. But at your level I don't think he could handle the pressure.
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| Quote ="cushler"Agree with most of that mate, but after seeing him perform against our part timers I'm not sure he is that "exceptional" a very good championship player maybe. But at your level I don't think he could handle the pressure.'"
I don't think he has much desire of making it at a big club he's happy taking a huge wage from Cas and standing out in a mediocre side. He would have to take a wage cut to be accommodated in a top side I think.
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| big fish in little pond syndrome
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| Quote ="FAXE LUCAS"But wouldnt that mean that a court would have to prove intent and it was a malicious act, which would then mean Chase is guilty of assault. I think it was a bad tackle but not for the courts to get involved with otherwise it would be happening everyweek in amateur rugby you would hope that as a professional sports player he would ensure he is covered to play and so will be covered'"
I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that if Ropati took out a civil, private prosecution there's be no criminal comeback on Chase, but obviously there'd need to be proof it was a deliberate act which to me is pretty conclusive. The game is hard enough without dangerous thuggery like what we saw on Saturday. If it means those who play with intent of injuring other in the amateur game think twice as well, then good. People who play hard and aggressive while still playing fair have nothing to worry about.
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| Hop, skip, jump, dummy. Thats all Chase has got, nothing else to his game. Isn't fit to lace Brett Finch's boots or Lee Briers for that matter.
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| Id like see him given his chance at a bigger club see what hes got, i think at the side of a Finch type player he would be immense but id rather us go for an out and out 7 and leave Finch doing what hes doing so well rather than have 2 different kinds of 6.
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