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| Not sure if I got this right but before kick off someone threw a bog roll from the top of our terrace and a jobs worth steward seemed to be pointing the culprit out to a female police officer. After a few minutes 2 male police officers followed by a senior policeman were all involved. Next minute a young lad appeared to be taken out of our stand. Surely he wasn't escorted away for throwing a bog roll?
Have I got this right?
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| if thats true its pathetic.
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| A young lad was escorted out yes. Not really sure why, I was stood pretty close to him and he didn't appear to do anything wrong...
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| A young lad was escorted out yes. Not really sure why, I was stood pretty close to him and he didn't appear to do anything wrong...
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| He was ejected, they were looking for excuses all game to eject Wigan fans, there was one steward in particular that decided to eyeball people for all of the second half and make gestures as if to say "come on then" his steward number was taken and a complaint will be made. They were extremely heavy handed before the game on the turnstile as were merseyside police. The stewards were a disgrace to the saints club
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"if thats true its pathetic.'"
if true agreed, any reason why saints are trying to spoil any pre game build up such as drums and banners it cant be because of HS or no ground would be allowed.
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| I saw the whole conversation between the steward and the female officer and can confirm 100% that he was thrown out for throwing a bog roll, it took 4 officers and 6 stewards to make the decision. Pathetic
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| Quote ="21-12"He was ejected, they were looking for excuses all game to eject Wigan fans, there was one steward in particular that decided to eyeball people for all of the second half and make gestures as if to say "come on then" his steward number was taken and a complaint will be made. They were extremely heavy handed before the game on the turnstile as were merseyside police. The stewards were a disgrace to the saints club'"
and the saints fans are talking about people rioting because of players celebrating.
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| I think it must have been the first rugby match where I was padded down before reaching the turnstiles. It was like going through the scanners at an airport and seemed pretty pointless to me.
Absolute jobsworths the lot of them. And what about the copper with the massive stick? How old school was he.
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| Quote ="Vectrabeast"I saw the whole conversation between the steward and the female officer and can confirm 100% that he was thrown out for throwing a bog roll, it took 4 officers and 6 stewards to make the decision. Pathetic'"
The laughable thing is they were awful at there jobs, they did " thorough" and heavy handed searches on large groups on the turnstile and yet around 100 streamers still made it in to the ground. They were basically bouncers in yellow jackets that would have absoulutely loved an excuse for it to get violent
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| could have bloody killed someone that bog roll could,,
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| Extremely over the top stewarding on Friday. Did a really good job as we only managed sneak six cans in! Every effort was made by saints and their bouncers to stop wiganers out singing/chanting their saints counterparts.
Massive fail then!
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| I read someone on the Wigan fans forum saying a steward on the carpark was giving them verbals before and after the game.
Sounds classy doesn't it?
I was stunned by the amount of police and stewards at the ground. Maybe they're cautious because it's new. There were 7 or 8 coppers at the train station as well which seemed overboard.
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| Quote ="Vectrabeast"I saw the whole conversation between the steward and the female officer and can confirm 100% that he was thrown out for throwing a bog roll, it took 4 officers and 6 stewards to make the decision. Pathetic'"
Ironically, he was thrown out for throwing one bog roll. Later on about ten bog rolls were thrown but I didn't see anyone else thrown out. it's the inconsistency of the referereeing that annoys me in rugby
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| Most of them Stewards are run by a bloke who runs some of the doors in duke street st.helens , what was the crack with all the police anyway . I was talking to 1 st.helens supporter who had been man handled by 1 of them just because he told 1 of them steward s there was no need to talk to a female the way they did . So the steward dragged him back in the ground and he nearly got him arrested till he explained to the officer that the steward was talking to a female in appropriately and he said there was no need for that !
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| I saw the heavy handed stewards before the game they seem to do it do groups of young fans that where chanting on the way to the turnstyles and why the need for police horses at a RL game.
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| One minute some of you are advising people to bunk in through the turnstiles and then complain that the stewards were heavy handed. As for being searched the club heard some supporters would be armed with spray paint.
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| One of the stewards tried to eject me for drinking out of a glass bottle? When I was drinking out of one the Bulmer's bottles bought from the bar. They were clearly looking for reasons to throw people out.
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| Quote ="roader"One minute some of you are advising people to bunk in through the turnstiles and then complain that the stewards were heavy handed. As for being searched the club heard some supporters would be armed with spray paint.'"
Is that from the same source that ' heard ' Wigan fans had smashed the toilet block up ?
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| Very, very poor from the St Helens club on a number of fronts, from some (not all) of the stewards' behaviour to the well-documented parking problems and the decision to class flags as some kind of weapon of mass destruction. On the good side, every Saints fan we met on the day was fine with us, just good friendly banter and sensible rugby chit-chat.
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| To be fair to the police/stewards in regard to the searching at the gates. You do have a group of fans who refer to themselves as the ultras. Do you not think that this has an impact on how certain sections of your support are looked upon?
Your ultra fans could have been carrying knives or flares etc. I don't think you can criticise the policing and stewarding for being too cautious.
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| Quote ="RLIMR"To be fair to the police/stewards in regard to the searching at the gates. You do have a group of fans who refer to themselves as the ultras. Do you not think that this has an impact on how certain sections of your support are looked upon?
Your ultra fans could have been carrying knives or flares etc. I don't think you can criticise the policing and stewarding for being too cautious.'"
LOL.... Your biggest worry would have been if someone took a socket set and dismantled the ground..!!
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| Quote ="RLIMR"To be fair to the police/stewards in regard to the searching at the gates. You do have a group of fans who refer to themselves as the ultras. Do you not think that this has an impact on how certain sections of your support are looked upon?
Your ultra fans could have been carrying knives or flares etc. I don't think you can criticise the policing and stewarding for being too cautious.'"
If there was a precedent where a section of Wigan fans had been caught carrying blades then I could understand your argument. However, to my knowledge, there hasn't been and that's a weak attempt at justifying tactics that are unwelcoming and bordering on hostile.
If the boot was on the other foot your fans would be crying into their scouse about it.
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| Quote ="RLIMR"To be fair to the police/stewards in regard to the searching at the gates. You do have a group of fans who refer to themselves as the ultras. Do you not think that this has an impact on how certain sections of your support are looked upon?
Your ultra fans could have been carrying knives or flares etc. I don't think you can criticise the policing and stewarding for being too cautious.'"
is that why the chavs from st helens was hanging around like a bad smell? its a rugby league fan group who correspond and are in regular contact with the club with the sole intention to raise atmosphere and bring a together feeling between fans they arn't some underground organised fight club from football.
when there is a heavy amount of stewards and police officers for no other reason apart from rumours this will cause trouble.
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