Anyone coming in to replace these four? or promote from within?

hock for hoffman, mellor and logan tomkins for deacon

Hoffman - Hock
Coley - Fielden
Deacon - Mellor (should get his chance)
J.Tomkins - G.Thomas???



As long as this Thomas stuff is rubbish and we sign a world class right centre I'm happy with that.

When you look at it like that is doesnt look too bad. Isn't Carmont retiring though? Dont get me wrong I'm not saying Thomas is a great signing or anything like that but dont you think its a stop gap for a year until a big signing becomes available in 2013. With most players only moving at the end of a contract its a bit of a jig saw in terms of timings

Why is everyone presuming Joel has gone? There's no evidence apart from a few whispers in the pubs until he's actually been confirmed as to leaving then I am still classing this as exactly what it is a "rumour"

correct...until then its hypothetical

hoffman...Faz/Tuson
coley...Hock
deacon....Tommy with Logan on the bench
and mellor knocking on the door

What will happen to all of the spare salary cap space that these players will create? I realise that players stepping up and therefore so will their wages but Gleeson Hoffman and Coley must have been on £450K ish between them.

Carmont is here for another year.

Weve only got rumours to go off at the moment so its hard to say for sure until we know who we are getting. Hopefully weve got one or two others lined up bar the unspectacular rumoured signings

we dont have to splash iy around for the sake of it....clubs run as a business.

some money would go to extending young prospects contracts i would imagine

Hock replacing Hoffman, how chuffin depressing is that, the guy is an idiot, 5 game ban when you are supposed to be on your best behaviour for the club proves this before all the fan boys come to his defence

I reckon we will keep our options open, the way we are run at the moment suggests we wont just throw the money around. IL & SW would rather play the youngsters & wait for the right players if we are splashing the cash.

Charnley is a centre isnt he? That would leave Roberts or Goulding for the wing ..

Not necessesarily but he might not have a choice the way its going

'OBSESSED'

Thats where he played his junior Rugby I thought and I'm sure he had a spell at HKR at right centre. Might be just the opportunity he needs to kick on and would obviously be cheaper than trying to source a replacement, like Saints and other teams have found replacing 1 for 1 players in recruitment isnt really possible when percentages of a leaving players salaries are eaten up by pay rises to young players and other squad members

Charnley to centre and King to step up on the wing perhaps.

Stick Roberts in the centres

By all accounts your paying him enough so you might as well use him somewhere other than the u20's. Is he still injured or just out of form and confidence?

Joel is going trust me

I'm hoping Amos unleashes his true potential next year after his injury riddled season. I was under the impression Charnley can play , if these two gel and Amos finds some form that would be a very impressive attacking combination. I have also heard nothing but praise for Ryan King giving another option to our back line, with the influx of exciting youth players into the first team gives me faith for a future with out Joel but losing Sam would be a hammer blow.

Until I hear your source of information that is reliable then sorry I just can't take your word for it maybe your not the only one in the "know"

Wife works with someone who went to school with Joel, who rang him last night and asked him what was going on, apparently, he replied that it's all complete rubbish.

Something definatley smells fishy, i dont see what the hold up could be if its true that hes leaving?

If its compensation as somebody suggested then the deal isnt as done as some people think is it?

TBH its getting ridiculous, i would rather just know one way or the other.

I spoke to Joel this afternoon in Wigan, he was with Prescott, he said that he still hadnt made up his mind but was considering everything. I got the feeling though from the general conversation that he would be leaving. Obviously he wasnt going to tell every Tom, Dick or Harry who asked him what he was going to do.