From the decision to find H not guilty, but thought it warranted a separate thread re how we do things - link [urlhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3129[/url

I've just read that and thought the same thing. Just shows how well Madge does his homework!

Wow.

You'd never believe that so much calculation & adjustment can go on over 2 seconds, with 4 people involved in a single tackle.

The speed of calculation required to affect this technique and then to adjust when he sees that the opposing player might land in an awkward or dangerous position is incredible.

Also, hats off to the coaching staff for their obvious attention to detail when it comes to individual player briefings.

wow

Nah. We're just a third man in at the knees team. Everyone knows that.

Yep. Richie Mathers isn't a fan, apparently...

Dirty cheats Wigan.

Outstanding explaination!

This

Someone forward this to cheerleader Mathers on twitter lol!

He's just peed off because he wasn't part of the plan.

Mathers can't affect a straightforward round-the-legs tackle, let alone anything as complex and careful as that.

Sorry, but thats is part of what I would expect Madge and his coaching staff to be doing. This is a professional sport, Don Revie & Bill Shankley were doing long before now.

Perhaps this is the problem with several other coaches in that they are are too busy taking the lure of television plaudit money (Kear, Slug and Noble), rather than concentrating on their team and the opposition.

Madge has taken coaching in this country to a new level. Let's hope no one matches him.... apart from Shaun Wane next season!

Wow, what a brilliant read.

That's what's called attention to detail.

However, I'm sure we are all over estimating Madge here, Kear, McDermott and Agar will all be doing the same.
They must be as they are SL coaches and they're British!

Not commenting on the incident in question, which I haven't seen, and the testimony certainly reflects attention to detail in preparation by Wigan, but I didn't find that a very satisfactory defence to a charge of dangerous contact.

Surely the panel's job is to decide whether the contact was dangerous or not? If it was, then the explanation that "I was coached that way, and I didn't want him to offload" is not a defence at all.

Not, I hasten to add, that I'm saying there was dangerous contact in this instance or any other, just an observation on a point of principle.

It disproves intent to foul.

After that what you're left with is an accident.

Accidental contact doesn't always acquit a player, especially if it still looks like a bit of reckless play - but unlike you, the panel did see the incident, and clearly decided that enough was enough. I sincerely doubt the whole thing hinged on this selected bit of defence evidence.

I know what you re saying, but I think that is probably more to do with the poor summaries they put up on the RFL website.

However saying that I think there's more in there than the "I was coached that way, and I didn't want him to offload" you state. That is no doubt just context and there is mention of a number of things, including the influence of two other players and how this make Hansen change technique etc to ensure safety as well as the influence of Lynch's own actions in trying to offload. All of this no doubt done with the aid of slow mo of the incident itself and more detailed explanation than included on the website.

I wasn't suggesting it did, and I was very clear that I wasn't discussing the specifics of the incident. If the panel ruled no dangerous contact, I'm content there was no dangerous contact.

It does not, however, disprove intent to foul. There is no "proof" in there. Just to be pedantic. Because it's the internet, and that's what the internet's for.

You are no doubt correct.

What I meant was that Wigan would have offered this part of the defence as a counter to any suspicion there might have been an intent to injure.

I have no idea how long a single disciplinary hearing lasts but I'd imagine that there more to Hansen's defense than the single point raised in that paragraph

What I found interesting was the R/L seemed to be having a little dig at Leuluai by infering that it would have been his fault if anything dangerous had taken place. See quote below taken from final decision of not guilty.
They are watching Wigans every move whenever a player goes for the legs.


" A crucial element was the sweeping of the leg by Leuluai which moved all players down into a more dangerous position".