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| Wigan Warriors 19 Man Squad
Sam Tomkins, George Carmont, Pat Richards, Paul Deacon, Thomas Leuluai, Michael McIlorum, Andy Coley, Harrison Hansen, Joel Tomkins, Sean O'Loughlin, Paul Prescott, Jeff Lima, Ryan Hoffman, Brett Finch, Lee Mossop, Liam Farrell, Josh Charnley, Gareth Hock, Ben Cross.
Referee - Richard Silverwood.
faz and Cross miss out for me, if Prescott is 100% fit
COME ON WIGAN
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| Cross and hock out for me.
That's a strong squad.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Cross and hock out for me.'"
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| Probably the strongest squad Saints have managed to name all year, although Royce has said 7 couldn't train earlier this week (mind games?)
Paul Wellens, Michael Shenton, Sia Soliola, Francis Meli, Leon Pryce, Kyle Eastmond, James Roby, James Graham, Tony Puletua, Jon Wilkin, Chris Flannery, Scott Moore, Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Paul Clough, Andrew Dixon, Jonny Lomax, Jamie Foster, Lee Gaskell, Thomas Makinson.
I reckon Gasell and Dixon to miss out:
1. Wellens
2. Makinson
3. Meli
4. Shenton
5. Foster
6. Pryce
7. Lomax
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. TP
11. Soliola
12. Flannery
13. Wilkin
Subs – LMS, Clough, Moore, Eastmond
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| Same with Cross and Hock. I rate Farrell muchly and think Prescott is going to be a top England prop in years to come!
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| If our forwards play like they have, and Saints' play like they can, this will be one hell of a battle.
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| Quote ="Guerrier"If our forwards play like they have, and Saints' play like they can, this will be one hell of a battle.'"
If Clough's fit, then it'll be a real boost to our forwards in such a tough game.
I'm getting the tingles of anticipation. I hope it lives up to it potential.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"If Clough's fit, then it'll be a real boost to our forwards in such a tough game.'"
No question. It's the equivalent of adding Fielden to the squad in place of Magennis, but Clough has fewer errors and penalties in his game than big Stu.
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| deffo cross and hock out,
its a shame cos i love hock i just dont think hes up to it atm, just going to be too quick and intesnse i think
hopefully hell be bk up to speed for the play offs,
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| Cross and Farrell to miss out for me. Don't think Madge will let Liam get away with that performance last week tbh. Spelling Hock at the right times on Saturday could prove a useful weapon for us.
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| Sam Tomkins
Josh Charnley
Joel Tomkins
George Carmont
Pat Richards
Brett Finch
Paul Deacon
Jeff Lima
Tommy Leuluai
Andy Coley
Harrison Hansen
Ryan Hoffman
Sean O'Loughlin
Paul Prescott
Lee Mossop
Micky McIlorum
Liam Farrell - Hard choice between him and Hock but I think if Hock played, Saints would target him. Not so likely with Faz, he had a bad game in attack last week but still made 40 tackles and only missed 1. Its what we need in games like this.
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| Quote ="The Ginger Pearl"Sam Tomkins
Josh Charnley
Joel Tomkins
George Carmont
Pat Richards
Brett Finch
Paul Deacon
Jeff Lima
Tommy Leuluai
Andy Coley
Harrison Hansen
Ryan Hoffman
Sean O'Loughlin
Paul Prescott
Lee Mossop
Micky McIlorum
Liam Farrell - Hard choice between him and Hock but I think if Hock played, Saints would target him. Not so likely with Faz, he had a bad game in attack last week but still made 40 tackles and only missed 1. Its what we need in games like this.'"
Thats the team I'd play also. The longer Hansen can stay on the field the better.
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| im 50/50 on Hock head says i think he needs a bit more game time to get back to his best but heart says in a game like this a Wigan lad who is desperate to make a big impact could be worth a gamble but i know thats what it would be a gamble
in Madge we trust!!!
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| It would be Prescott and Hock to miss out for me.
I've like what I've seen from Ben Cross and I don't want a repeat of Warrington when Prescott only played 10-15 minutes.
Hock isn't ready for this game.
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| Quote ="FAXE LUCAS"im 50/50 on Hock head says i think he needs a bit more game time to get back to his best but heart says in a game like this a Wigan lad who is desperate to make a big impact could be worth a gamble but i know thats what it would be a gamble
in Madge we trust!!!'"
Hock's performance and lack of minutes against Warrington is the worry for me.
In a game this big, we don't want any risks, and he falls into that category IMO.
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| Absoulutely bricking it. Just not confident at all. God help me if this goes to extra time.
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| For me Prescott has to be included if he's fit enough. Cross hasn't come close to matching Prescott so far and looks like a bit of a liability. Hock is still a worry. He doesn't look comfortable at all on the right hand side and even on the left he's not up to speed defensively. I think Saints will try to target him as much as possible if he plays and I'm not sure he's quite got to the stage where the positives outweigh the negatives.
Yes Farrell had a poor game against Hull but so did Hock. One thing Farrell will definitely provide is enthusiasm and a very high work rate. I think Farrell is less of a risk than Hock.
I'd say Cross and Hock to miss out as long as Prescott is fit to play.
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| Prescott to miss out for me, if his hamstring goes again after a few minutes it could cost us.
At the moment it's toss a coin between Farrell and Hock.
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| Farrell out for me. His recent form has been horrendous.
Same team as the QF
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| faz and hock to miss for me.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"It would be Prescott and Hock to miss out for me.
I've like what I've seen from Ben Cross and I don't want a repeat of Warrington when Prescott only played 10-15 minutes.
Hock isn't ready for this game.'"
Agree totally.
Hock is a liability in defence at the moment with regards to his positioning and he's going to need a few more games to get up to speed.
Cross ahead of Prescott for me as we can't take the risk.
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| If Prescott is fit, is there a case for having Lima and Coley as starting props, and a bench of Cross, Prescott, Mossop and McIlorum?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"If Prescott is fit, is there a case for having Lima and Coley as starting props, and a bench of Cross, Prescott, Mossop and McIlorum?'"
That would probably mean Mossop playing in the back row as it's asking a lot of Hansen, Hoffman and Lockers to play 80 minutes at what is probably high intensity rugby. Is it wise to move him there when he's been one of, if not the best prop in the team? I suppose Madge could also use Prescott or McIlorum as a loose forward and move O'Loughlin out wide in that situation should he want to rotate the back row but it doesn't seem sensible in my opinion.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"If Prescott is fit, is there a case for having Lima and Coley as starting props, and a bench of Cross, Prescott, Mossop and McIlorum?'"
If still had Puletua in the backrow then it wouldn't be a bad idea but he's been playing at prop so I don't see the need tbh.
I'm not sure Cross looked ready for a game like this against Hull. He looks eager to impress but his discipline needs some work. I'd also say Hock isn't quite ready but Farrells poor performance last week may save him.
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| I don't like the idea of a bench with Cross, Prescott and Mossop. I think Mossop is a prop through and through myself.
If Prescott is fit Cross drops out straight away. Not been overly impressed by Cross, hes been steady and showed plenty of passion but he isnt upto the teams standards just yet.
The decision between Hock and Farrell is much harder. Due to Hock only just coming back and being slightly off the pace at times plus Farrell not being as impressive recently. For me the decision should be made based on our starting second rowers. Hoffman will play the full 80. So, that leaves cover needed for 10-20 mins on the right hand side for Hansen. With that in mind i'd go with Faz, Hock is a left sided second row and doesnt need the added pressure of playing on that side after a 2 year lay off.
Another option during the game would be to give McLlorum a spell in the back row at times. Have him defending in the middle as normal and push Lockers into right SR in defence.
So Cross and Hock to miss out for me but agree Hock may be saved by Farrell under performing last week. If so i wont lose any sleep over it he's a top player when on form and will be pumped up more than ever for a derby.
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