Just how did he get up and carry on playing?

His legs were like jelly at one point following the tackle and it really does make a mockery of other sports when you see athletes like him just carry on playing.

I saw one of the conditioners come on at one point with the smelling salts and it seemed like she was trying to pursuade him to have a breather.

Did he play the full 80?

Made me laugh when he tried a diving tackle after he had just had the hit from Mason. He didn't know where he was but was still committed to make the tackle. Been a great player for us this season and is a class apart from other 2nd rowers in the league.

Not seen the game since but at the time i thought it was tommy that clattered him.

Despite only being here for one year he is more committed to the club than overseas players like Vaealiki, Moran, Phelps, etc who spent a few years here. He has 100% respect from everyone and can go home at the end of the seaosn with his head held high.

Bit harsh on Phelps?

Think he went off for the first time on 70 minutes or so.

If Hoff stays or go's then he'll do so with a massive pat on the back from everyone. He's been so professional in his time here and looks as though he's really enjoying himself. He's having a terrific season and has been a pleasure to watch.

That was toughness and desire at it's peak yesterday.

Out of all the things said about Phelps I can't believe anyone would question his commitment?

Spot on

Phelps gave nothing but 100% for wigan.

Agree to disagree.

IIRC Hoff went to tackle Mason, and bounced off Harrison Hansen?

Not on this one no.

Why name an obviously committed player? I lost count of him getting a bad knock and playing on in games.

He was never less than 100% committed to the Wigan cause and it's not fair to lump him into the Moran category of players.

Fully agree, thought he never gave less than 100% for us!

All I said was Hoffman is more committed than Phelps was. I dont think I am wrong.

But then putting him in the same sentence as Moran and Vaealiki? Laughable.

Does it matter what sentence he is in? Stop being so petty, this thread is about Hoffman and his commitment to Wigan, stop trying to change it into a stupid argument about a player thats long gone.

Your the one that brought other players into a thread regarding Hoffman. If you're going to make stupid comments like your original one then you have to expect people to comment back.

Stop backtracking, it's safe to say he was lumped in as an equal to the others. Now if you'd have thrown in Florimo or some others of their ilk fair enough.

from the replay it seems to be an elbow from Lima that rattles his marbles, nowt to do with a big hit from mason other than he was the player three of them were trying to tackle.

Well for me, what Phelps gave to Hull and all their players after he signed for them makes him an absolute little rat and puts him up there with what Robinson did with the Pongia situation.

Thats the reason I used him as an example.

I was thinking of this when you posted and wondered if there was more to it that I didn't know about. I'm sure next time we play Hull he will get some 'special treatment' from a few of the Wigan players.

Correct. You don't do that in Rugby League. Phelps is a little worm who wants absolutely smashing when Wigan next play Hull FC.

What did he do ?

Quote ="wigan_knight"What did he do ?'" www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/ap ... n-warriors Quote That situation has intensified since some tip sheets from the Australian's first season at Wigan began to circulate several weeks ago. '"

Quote ="wigan_knight"What did he do ?'" www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/ap ... n-warriors Quote That situation has intensified since some tip sheets from the Australian's first season at Wigan began to circulate several weeks ago. '"

How do you know it was Phelps?

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