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| Any News.
Find it hard to believe that our coaching situation is rumbling on.
How is this affecting potential recruitment when any possible incoming players dont know who the coach will be.
Is there a problem in appointing wane for the job? If not what is the delay in announcing who aour new man will be
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| I reckon it'll be Wane!
No rush though, lets concentrate on matters ON the park, that'll take care of itself
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| Wigan all over, surprised we didn't have to wait a month to receive the Super League Trophy!!!
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| Quote ="Captain13"I reckon it'll be Wane!
No rush though, lets concentrate on matters ON the park, that'll take care of itself'"
matters on the park are being effected by the non announcment (see Hoffman)!
this needs sorting and now!
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| Quote ="Carneys Cover"matters on the park are being effected by the non announcment (see Hoffman)!
this needs sorting and now!'"
Do you think theyre just ignoring the Hoff situation et al??
That will already be sorted out IMO, you just scream for the team and you'll find out when they decide to tell us
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| Quote ="Carneys Cover"matters on the park are being effected by the non announcment (see Hoffman)!
this needs sorting and now!'"
Do you know that it's NOT being "sorted"? Maybe all manner of things are happening behind the scenes.
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| Word on another popular Wigan RL fans forum is that it's a matter of sorting out the details of the contract, but that other than that it's Wane.
As for matters on the park being affected by the non announcement? There are any number of factors which could be affecting things. Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
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| Ooops, thought I'd clicked on the Chelsea web site there.............
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| I don't see this an an easy decision and just because somebody may deserve the position does not mean that they are the right man for the job.
Its clear that SW would be a very popular appointment but again this does not mean that its the right one.
Personally i really do hope that we explore all possibilities - expecially down under and give the job to the person that can not only maintain current standards at Wigan but improve the team and the club.
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| agreed,this will b our chairmans toughest desision since he took over it has to b the right one.
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| Wane it will be but I can see him not being able to handle the big task of being head coach, he's a nice bloke but don't think he's honestly got it.
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| Dave Whelan has been banging on all week about how Roberto Martinez is the best coach in Europe and is destined for a big job.
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| I heard that its Wane but Lenegan is messing about with the contract trying to get Wane on the same money he is on as an assistant, which is extremely unfair. If I was an assistant on the verge of getting promoted i'd expect more money.
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| Just because it hasn't been announced doesn't mean it hasn't been sorted and that recruitement is well underway.
We will find out when the club are ready.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Just because it hasn't been announced doesn't mean it hasn't been sorted and that recruitement is well underway.
We will find out when the club are ready.'"
My thoughts exactly. I think Lenegan has done enough to prove he knows what he's doing when it comes to recruiting playing and non-playing staff, can't say I'm worried that it hasn't been announced yet. To blame poor performances on the players being unsure about next years coach seems like a bit of a cop out for the players, they don't need any excuses and they should be focusing on the here and now imo, Madge is the current coach and at the moment that is what matters.
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| Quote ="Dave26"My thoughts exactly. I think Lenegan has done enough to prove he knows what he's doing when it comes to recruiting playing and non-playing staff, can't say I'm worried that it hasn't been announced yet. To blame poor performances on the players being unsure about next years coach seems like a bit of a cop out for the players, they don't need any excuses and they should be focusing on the here and now imo, Madge is the current coach and at the moment that is what matters.'"
This!
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| Quote ="Dave26"My thoughts exactly. I think Lenegan has done enough to prove he knows what he's doing when it comes to recruiting playing and non-playing staff, can't say I'm worried that it hasn't been announced yet. '"
Has Lenegan's recruitment been that good.
No denying that he got it right with Maguire but even that needed the agreement of the other Super League clubs as he didn't meet the necessary criteria so could have easily been rejected.
Elsewhere he recruited and EXTENDED Karl Pryce's contract - why does he no longer refer to Pryce as "a long term project"?
He claims that he does his background on players to ensure no bad eggs are signed but blows £130k on Martin Gleeson.
Tim Smith was a disaster, a big four year contract for Amos Roberts doesn't seem worthy of the trumpet blowing that Lenengan did about that "coup" at the time now does it?
Cameron Phelps was a waste of an import shirt unless you count the u20 trophy that himself and Palasena (isn't he another Lenegan contract extension to languish in the u20s at great expense) won a good return.
Deacon has missed an awful lot of game time but has been a useful player when there and no doubt helps with coaching so that could be desribed as good.
The recruitment of Hoffman, Finch and Lima were good signatures to secure but to be fair that was obviously down to Maguire's presence.
So beyond Maguire who and where is the rest of this recruitment to prove that he "knows what he is doing"?
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| It would be interesting to know how many of those players you mention where directly signed by the chairman or were signed on the coaches recommendation, I am guessing that the coach would have had a lot of input into those signings (most of whom were signed by under Noble anyway).
Even then Deacon despite his injury problems (he was only going to do one year to provide some experience then move to coaching - this year is an extra) and just about anyone will say that last year he was important. Phelps was a short notice signing brought in as cover and did ok. All clubs make good / bad signings - nature of the beast.
Off the field signings in the backroom staff have been perhaps the most important for the club - and there things have been good.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"Has Lenegan's recruitment been that good.
No denying that he got it right with Maguire but even that needed the agreement of the other Super League clubs as he didn't meet the necessary criteria so could have easily been rejected.
Elsewhere he recruited and EXTENDED Karl Pryce's contract - why does he no longer refer to Pryce as "a long term project"?
He claims that he does his background on players to ensure no bad eggs are signed but blows £130k on Martin Gleeson.
Tim Smith was a disaster, a big four year contract for Amos Roberts doesn't seem worthy of the trumpet blowing that Lenengan did about that "coup" at the time now does it?
Cameron Phelps was a waste of an import shirt unless you count the u20 trophy that himself and Palasena (isn't he another Lenegan contract extension to languish in the u20s at great expense) won a good return.
Deacon has missed an awful lot of game time but has been a useful player when there and no doubt helps with coaching so that could be desribed as good.
The recruitment of Hoffman, Finch and Lima were good signatures to secure but to be fair that was obviously down to Maguire's presence.
So beyond Maguire who and where is the rest of this recruitment to prove that he "knows what he is doing"?'"
Throw in Richie Mathers into that and I would tend to agree that his recruitment has been patchy at best.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Throw in Richie Mathers into that and I would tend to agree that his recruitment has been patchy at best.'"
I believe he tried and tried and tried to recruit Chev Walker too
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| Lenaghan out. Bloody rubbish Wigan!
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Dave Whelan has been banging on all week about how Roberto Martinez is the best coach in Europe and is destined for a big job.'"
Dave Whelan is a deluded fool.
As for the Warriors coach. Is there any rush? We're only at the halfway point of the season. Maguire is in charge until this one ends - why rush to appoint his successor?
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| Quote ="P-J"Dave Whelan is a deluded fool.
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How many coaches has Whelan proclaimed to be the 'best in the world, best in Europe..etc'.
Paul Jewell, Steve Bruce, Martinez, Millward, Noble...
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"Has Lenegan's recruitment been that good.
No denying that he got it right with Maguire but even that needed the agreement of the other Super League clubs as he didn't meet the necessary criteria so could have easily been rejected.
Elsewhere he recruited and EXTENDED Karl Pryce's contract - why does he no longer refer to Pryce as "a long term project"?
He claims that he does his background on players to ensure no bad eggs are signed but blows £130k on Martin Gleeson.
Tim Smith was a disaster, a big four year contract for Amos Roberts doesn't seem worthy of the trumpet blowing that Lenengan did about that "coup" at the time now does it?
Cameron Phelps was a waste of an import shirt unless you count the u20 trophy that himself and Palasena (isn't he another Lenegan contract extension to languish in the u20s at great expense) won a good return.
Deacon has missed an awful lot of game time but has been a useful player when there and no doubt helps with coaching so that could be desribed as good.
The recruitment of Hoffman, Finch and Lima were good signatures to secure but to be fair that was obviously down to Maguire's presence.
So beyond Maguire who and where is the rest of this recruitment to prove that he "knows what he is doing"?'"
I suppose he'd argue that the proof is in the pudding. IL took Wigan to their first Grand Final victory in a decade. That wasn't a stroke of luck. And it's too easy to just dismiss the recruitment of Maguire as a one-off thing. That doesn't take into account how difficult it was to sign up a young Aussie coach with a big future, especially as so many folk - from Eddie and Stevo down to the doziest Wigan fan - were urging him to give Noble another contract. He rode a lot of rough water around that period, but thankfully had the strength of his convictions.
I also think that to deliberately ignore the good work he's done in securing us as much top junior talent as possible on good contracts - and not just from the Wigan area - is loading the dice a little.
Granted, that's the sort of thing a CEO should be doing, but in actual fact very few are and until IL took over, Wigan weren't either.
Gleeson, by the way, was a success. It may rankle in Warrington, but he was superb for us during our championship season, especially in the final. That was definitely money well spent.
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