What exactley did he do in the first half?

Nothing but knock-on and gift tries

I said that he would pop up with a try late on, right after he knocked on near his line. You just knew it would happen.

He looked quite happy at the end - I think for a split second we were going to get the fingers but he changed his mind and just booted the ball. The Cas fan next to me was going mental - I thought they had won the grand final.

Coming from 4-22 down felt quite special.

He's an still an awful player.

Enthusiastic, but awful.

High 5.

Awful ? Oh dear.

As a fullback.....

I agree - Awful.

Kick the ball to him and you can pretty much guarantee a mistake every 3 to 4 kicks (at his best).

The try he scored was, shall we say, Karl Pryce-esque - Catch and fall.

of all the players to score

Individually, he is. He's been fortunate to play in some very good teams.

If you were honest, and made a list of the Full Backs in SL at the moment ranked on ability, he's not getting above halfway. Tomkins, Hodgson, Webb, Grix, Greenshields, Kearney, Briscoe et al are all better.

Never stops trying though, bless him.

Mathers seemed like a popular lad when he was at the club - folk who knew him all seemed to like him, but I can't see past that play-off semi at Leeds, when he allowed one up-and-under to bounce after another. Only a miracle prevented them storming in for several more scores as a result of such ineptitude.

He's never a fullback in the memory of man.

He's actually been really good for us in most games so far but handling kicks - not so much the bombs but 50/50 grubbers etc - has been his big weakness. Believe me he's a massive improvement on McGoldrick at FB.

Don't tell Rogues Gallery that.

Yes but you see, Wigan fans only judge Mathers on the time he played for them and the games he plays in against them. He could be super-awesome for the other 26+ games of the season and he'd still be awful despite Wire fans praising him and Cas fans praising him.

Yesterday was probably his worst game for us but he wasn't the only one who struggled with the conditions.

You could probably forgive him for the first try because Wigan got jammy with the deflection off our play and Finch was already steaming on to the ball and so the bounce favoured him before Mathers had time to adjust.

The second mistake, fair enough, but then again so did several other players (Pat Richards, anyone?).

Still don't get the stick he takes from Wigan fans.

Not just us then?

And televised games...but yes, of course, how could we judge him on games we don't see?

Wire didn't take long to identify their main weakness from last season.

You mean in the fact that Wire offered him a new deal and wanted him to stay?

Considering they'd already signed Hodgson, and Mathers didn't want to be playnig 2nd fiddle to someone, yes.

Tony Smith isn't stupid, hence why he brought in a top Full Back when he had Mathers at his club.

No , No and No , you said they would score in the last few minutes and i said and i bet its mathers who will score

Mathers won us the CC against Leeds, he was simply awesome.

No. I said it to lawson in the first half actually.

He also threw the pass to Cudjoe that put you out of the playoffs.

He was phenomenal in that Final, but he's not the type of player that puts in those performances on a consistent basis. Got nothing against the man, as he's fantastically good entertainment when it rains.

Oh reet , you just said to me that they will score with a few to go and i said yes it will be richie who scores.