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| Just a quick reminder of a certain comment I was really ripped into over, a comment I made documenting how I said Harrison wouldn't be missed.
So let's review it stats men-have we missed him? We've won every single game since he was injured. Thats the only stat you really need to look at.
We recorded our most impressive win over quins in his absence.
All in all the answer no matter which silly stat you through at it, we've not missed him.
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| And the point is ? ....
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| This should be locked hansen is a work horse
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| HH is our best second row forward IMO bar Hoffmann, extremely under rated, never stops working, rarely misses a tackle, has pace. An all round quality forward.
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| I,ve got to agree with the original poster here. Look at the early games we won without Pat & Stu this season,who needs any of them
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Just a quick reminder of a certain comment I was really ripped into over, a comment I made documenting how I said Harrison wouldn't be missed.
So let's review it stats men-have we missed him? We've won every single game since he was injured. Thats the only stat you really need to look at.
We recorded our most impressive win over quins in his absence.
All in all the answer no matter which silly stat you through at it, we've not missed him.'"
But look at the opposition since hes been compared to when he has played. Shows why stats dont tell the right story.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Just a quick reminder of a certain comment I was really ripped into over, a comment I made documenting how I said Harrison wouldn't be missed.
So let's review it stats men-have we missed him? We've won every single game since he was injured. Thats the only stat you really need to look at.
We recorded our most impressive win over quins in his absence.
All in all the answer no matter which silly stat you through at it, we've not missed him.'"
Have you ever heard the phrase; "Correlation does not imply causation"?
If not you need to read up on it.
By your logic we don't need Hock or Fielden either. Our record was pretty good without Richards before he came back and we won games minus Deacon and Finch. Don't need any of them then do we?
So, obviously, its about whether or not any returning player will improve the team and I think in Hansen's case the answer is most definitely yes especially when we play the better sides. With Joel in the centres the fact we have still won with him playing there does not mean a back row (and bench) of Hoffman, Farrell, Lockers and Hansen isn't better than the same with one of the younger players taking Hansen's role.
The fact we beat two poor teams by big scores means nothing and its about how we go v Wire, Leeds, Saints and Hudds that will count this season and with Hansen in the side we will do better v then than without him.
Hansen is one of the most underrated players at the club and I did think he was finally getting some recognition but one thing is for sure, you don't keep getting new contracts at this club if you are poor.
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| So all in all did we miss him? Nope.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"So all in all did we miss him? Nope.'"
we could say that about the entire team and the coach as we won all games when he was absent last year. Its a team game....
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| Tuson has been played in his absence and has been poor. He cost is 2 try's against Crusaders with shocking missed tackles that Hansen would have made in his sleep. We have looked lethargic in alot of games aswell and that's something Hansen would never be accused of.
He's been missed without question.
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| But, did we miss him? Clearly not. Hammered for such a comment when look what happened. Clearly we've not missed him.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Tuson has been played in his absence and has been poor. He cost is 2 try's against Crusaders with shocking missed tackles that Hansen would have made in his sleep. We have looked lethargic in alot of games aswell and that's something Hansen would never be accused of.
He's been missed without question.'"
Sorry? How many have we lost without him?
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Sorry? How many have we lost without him?'"
who have we played?
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Sorry? How many have we lost without him?'" Clueless
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Sorry? How many have we lost without him?'"
Mate that can surely be no basis of an argument as we'd have won these easy games we've had with or without Hansen(and another 4 or 5 players no doubt).
If you look at the smaller details within those performances he's been missed IMO. I've agreed with you before that when everyone is back fit and playing he may have to fight hard for a place in the 17 but at the minute he gets one on merit.
Is Hansen a better option then Tuson or Highes at the moment- 100% yes
Will he be a better option then Hock or Farrell when we have a full squad- possibly not.
Maguire obviously rates him very highly though.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Sorry? How many have we lost without him?'"
Liverpool lost more games with Steven Gerrard playing than without him last season, is he cr@p aswell?
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| Quote ="king warrior"Clueless'"
Because months ago I claimed we won't miss him and when the games played out we didn't. Not clueless, in fact I'm just not one of the inbreds who can actually see what happens on the rugby pitch and what players offer.
So have we missed him? How many have we lost without him?
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| Some fair points-warranted. But the fact remains he wasn't missed.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Because months ago I claimed we won't miss him and when the games played out we didn't. Not clueless, in fact I'm just not one of the inbreds who can actually see what happens on the rugby pitch and what players offer.
So have we missed him? How many have we lost without him?'"
Doesnt mean we havnt missed the things he offers to the team just because we havnt lost any games, I remember us winning a lot of games when Farrell was injured a few years back, doesnt mean we didnt miss his presence, worst topic ever this.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Because months ago I claimed we won't miss him and when the games played out we didn't. Not clueless, in fact I'm just not one of the inbreds who can actually see what happens on the rugby pitch and what players offer.
So have we missed him? How many have we lost without him?'" Your putting results down to 1 player wtf
Who have we played when he was fit?
Who have we played when he's been injured?
All that = you CLUELESS
The guy is a very good player his gives 100% week in week out which is alot more than i could say about others
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| Played nearly every game in a SL winning side last season, played in the grand final, scored a fantastic try in the play off's, end of arguement, he's a class forward.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Some fair points-warranted. But the fact remains he wasn't missed.'" Because our depth in the squad is very good
Was he missed? NO
Was out pack stronger without him? NO
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"But, did we miss him? Clearly not. Hammered for such a comment when look what happened. Clearly we've not missed him.'"
Explain, without murmuring DID WE MISS HIM? DID WE MISS HIM? DID WE MISS HIM? Why you feel he hasn't been missed, and why you feel he won't add anything to the team when he returns. Results mean nothing, we would have won against quins and crusaders if he had played.
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| Quote ="21-12":194ow32gDoesnt mean we havnt missed the things he offers to the team just because we havnt lost any games, I remember us winning a lot of games when Farrell was injured a few years back, doesnt mean we didnt miss his presence, worst topic ever this.'"
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