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| I think Hock should be allowed back a week early to face Saints because of his good behaviour during his ban. After all, prisoners normally only serve about half of their sentence. And what's one week between friends.
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| Quote ="Salty"I think Hock should be allowed back a week early to face Saints because of his good behaviour during his ban. After all, prisoners normally only serve about half of their sentence. And what's one week between friends.'"
Correct, he has not played for Wigan since June 5th 2009.
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| I don't expect to see Hock playing for the first team for a good 3-4 weeks after his ban finishes. He'll need to get back up to speed with proper match contact and match fitness after being out for two years, and the first team isn't the place for that to happen. Some big U20 crowds look likely.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"I don't expect to see Hock playing for the first team for a good 3-4 weeks after his ban finishes. He'll need to get back up to speed with proper match contact and match fitness after being out for two years, and the first team isn't the place for that to happen. Some big U20 crowds look likely.'"
I'd put him straight in...as sub.
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| **awaits other teams fans foaming at the mouth over there keyboard responses**
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Correct, he has not played for Wigan since June 5th 2009.'"
I didn't realise that. In that case he should be back 2 weeks earlier.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"I don't expect to see Hock playing for the first team for a good 3-4 weeks after his ban finishes. He'll need to get back up to speed with proper match contact and match fitness after being out for two years, and the first team isn't the place for that to happen. Some big U20 crowds look likely.'"
The sad thing is that there is a mid season break in June for the U20's with only the rearranged game v Bradford on 11th June.
The U20's games in July are Quins away, 10th.
The next two however are at home on 16th and 23rd v Wakefield and Huddersfield.
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| Given that prisoners often get released halfway through their sentences, i think Hock should be retrospectively played in all our matches since June 2010.
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| Quote ="Salty"I didn't realise that. In that case he should be back 2 weeks earlier.'"
Hock was provisionally banned on the 22 June 2009 after the A sample came back positive, the last time he played is neither here nor there.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Hock was provisionally banned on the 22 June 2009 after the A sample came back positive, the last time he played is neither here nor there.'"
Spoil sport.
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| [url=http://content.yudu.com/Library/A1s5gp/GarethHockInterview/resources/index.htm?referrerUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yudu.com%2Fitem%2Fdetails%2F330992%2FGareth-Hock-InterviewHock Interview with JJB in Rugby League World[/url
Nothing out of the ordinary, nor anything that hasn't been said before, but a good read anyway.
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| Got to have the "Big One" returning for "The Big One 3" - Would be a huge marketing boost and hopefully ensure a bumper crowd.
As said before, get him on the Subs' bench - can come on after 25 minutes and smash into the Huddersfield forwards!
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"Spoil sport.'"
If people are on a wind-up they need to get the basics right first. 1st rule of trolling.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"I don't expect to see Hock playing for the first team for a good 3-4 weeks after his ban finishes. He'll need to get back up to speed with proper match contact and match fitness after being out for two years, and the first team isn't the place for that to happen. Some big U20 crowds look likely.'"
I think he'll go straight back in to the first team off the bench tbh. Finch wasnt used in the 20s and Pat only had 1 game with them and they were both coming off the back of long term injuries. If hes looking fit enough in training I would think using him in 15-20 minute spells of the bench in SL games would be the best way to get him up to speed.
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| They should let him back for the Saints game just so he can say bye to James Graham. It could be the last time they ever meet
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"=#FF0000I think he'll go straight back in to the first team off the bench tbh. Finch wasnt used in the 20s and Pat only had 1 game with them and they were both coming off the back of long term injuries. If hes looking fit enough in training I would think using him in 15-20 minute spells of the bench in SL games would be the best way to get him up to speed.'"
And who would you drop from the squad, Mossop, Farrell, Lima, Presscott? and Harrison is due back in a few weeks He has to earn his place and if MM sticks to his guns and treats him like he has done every other player so far in his rain we know that will be the case.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"The sad thing is that there is a mid season break in June for the U20's with only the rearranged game v Bradford on 11th June.
The U20's games in July are Quins away, 10th.
The next two however are at home on 16th and 23rd v Wakefield and Huddersfield.'"
He can have a run-out at my club if he likes.
Possibly wouldn't get him up to SL match fitness, but I'll make sure he gets 80.
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| Quote ="Lippy"And who would you drop from the squad, Mossop, Farrell, Lima, Presscott? and Harrison is due back in a few weeks He has to earn his place and if MM sticks to his guns and treats him like he has done every other player so far in his rain we know that will be the case.'"
Agreed, depends on whether Hansen is still out or not. I'd imagine if Hansen was still out he'd get the bench spot over Tuson.
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| What people seem to be forgetting is that hes been allowed to start training two months early to get him back upto speed with full contact and tactics etc for the sole reason of being able to return straight from his ban. I agree the bench should be the starting point but he definitely should be given the chance to start playing as soon as his ban ends if hes proven himself good enough in training. Remember MM doesnt pick the "best" players based solely on match form its also how they conduct themselves and how they play in training.
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| Duel registration with Widnes. Denis Betts needs to get his team up the league.
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| Quote ="Smooth Stu"Duel registration with Widnes. Denis Betts needs to get his team up the league.'"
You cant do Dual Reg with someone over 21.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"They should let him back for the Saints game just so he can say bye to James Graham. It could be the last time they ever meet
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I agree,that would be very interesting.
Anyway Saints fan in peace here I would just like to say good luck to the kid.
He has the potential to be a world beater on his day and he has paid for his errors,let the kid get on with playing rugby.
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"I agree,that would be very interesting.
Anyway Saints fan in peace here I would just like to say good luck to the kid.
He has the potential to be a world beater on his day and he has paid for his errors,let the kid get on with playing rugby.'"
It would hardly be a meeting of intellects would it.
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| i dont think they should let him back early! think he should serve his ban same as anyone else would have to! hes no different to anyone else & tbh i dont think wigan especially need him or would miss him if we didnt have him against saints! we're strong enough without him.
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| He's 17 and a half stone of muscle. Thats one frightening thought
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