Sam back to 6 with finch at 7, mike mc and tommy at hooker with amos at FB. Sam has been nullified at FB and is weak under the high ball. it needs to change and his step up to first or second receiver changed the game tonight.

Totally agree. Especially with Pat back in a few weeks.

Pat to 1
Charnley to 5 (Roberts was garbage tonight!)
Sam to 6
Leuluai to 7
Mikey mac to 9
Finch on bench

Agreed, Sam at full back has to stop !

He showed what he can do in that last 5 minutes, before that Leeds nullified him totally.

Totally agreed; Roberts to 1 for me. We've got two games coming up that we really should be winning, so they're great for him to build some confidence.

1 Amos
2 Goulding
3 Joel
4 Carmont
5 Richards
6 Tomkins
7 Finch (needs the game time)
9 Leuluai

Mickey on the bench for me.

Amos?

We would be better off with Amos from Emerdale farm.....

I said the guy was trash from day 1 and have seen VERY little evidence to suggest otherwise since.

Maybe JonH would like to come on here and tell me exactly why he is great?

We've seen what he can do. We've seen that he's a confidence player. Is that a drawback? Of course it is. He need a run of games to build the confidence. His future in this team is going to be at fullback if anywhere, so he needs the games there. It's as simple as that.

He may not look especially sharp now, I'll give you that one. But to suggest he's "trash" is way, way wide of the mark. The quality he exhibited from both the wing and, crucially, fullback last season shows this in abundance.

Send Finch back to where he came from and you'll be reyt.

Have to agree. Amos is a complete liability as the only things he is consistent with is being out of position, form or mental state. I must admit i have been blowing the IL trumpet for a while but he got it badly wrong on this one.

I wish we were playing you next week.

With Richards back to not miss the conversions?

2 games and you have already decided hes crap?

Yes.

Feel free to come back at the end of the season and attempt to trip me up on this.

I somehow feel you won't be

Your time will come, i know you are desperate but wait your turn.

sorry but that is a ridiculous post. Amos was the best player in the league before his injury v wakefield last year. were you saying he was garbage then. yes he hasnt been the same player but look at sam in the same role. he is nullified bringing the ball back, dropped numerous high balls and isnt the best defending one on one mainly due to his stature. is sam a poor player ??????? no . at least with sam at 6 we have his threat and creativity at first or second receiver and amos wouldnt do any worse than sam at FB and maybe with a run in the team at that position he may get back to his previous form, but let me guess he would still be e even he was performing like that

Hang on a minute Ziggy theres kids reading this forum!

I'll bring my boots and turn out at 6 if Roberts is at full back.

I'd pay to watch that.

Roberts was indeed poor tonight and Leeds exploited his wing.

Sam has to come off Fullback, he is wasted back there. Get him to 6.

So i either go with the view of our coach Micheal Maguire(1 season 1 Championship) or you Dave Lister the coach of? ...............

(Feel free to fill in the gap)

I'd be more concerned with you at full back

Is it?

He has had about half a dozen decent games in all the time he has been here. He has had about 5x that amount where he has been below average.

You keep to your own definition, I will keep to mine.


The inclusion of Sam into the debate does nothing other than to cloud the issue.

We'll discuss further in October

You'd need me there to look after you if you played sunshine

The thing is i'm wondering how much game time has Sam had at 1 in his life? (Maybe Bilko et al could provide some info of how he went in U20s/U18s and if he had much time at 1?) because Super League is NOT the place to learn how to play at 1 imo

like you'll be there