down south east england next week. last time. i went to south east a week after our sl final win my brother in law,his father and my nephew said how useless league was to union

brother in law and nephew a season ticket at a reasonable championship football team. HELP how can say warriors are a great world team in sport

You could try pointing out that the likes of Hape and Ashton getting big praise in Union both learned their trade in RL, along with the likes of Jason Robinson in years past.

Or try this random question to anyone outside the RL heartlands - name a famous RL club team and a famous RU club team? My guess is then name of Wigan RL is better known worldwide than any RU club, truth is RU is all about the international game and being on BBC gives it a higher profile. Now that Engleand RU have actually maanaged to win a game or two and have discovered how to actually play something like rugby (in short spells) how the media are going overboard.

Agree with this. Union has a higher profile because people outside the heartlands dont give league a chance. When I was at uni there was 2 lads from london in my house and they both criticised league and said it was boring. It turned out they had never sat and watched a full 80 mins before and I got them watching super league on sky and they both loved it. One of them even started coming to a few wigan away games with me (was at uni in Hull so used to do most of the Yorkshire games)

show them a match

im in the same position now. i am at hull uni and when we get onto the topic of rugby people love to talk about union. they also love to slate league, but most of my mates admit to never watching a full game.

I am at uni in Sheffield but most of my uni mates are originally from Manchester and they haven't got a clue. I did however get a friend from London interested in it.

you could point out that the Chris Ashton "wonder try" happens near enough every week in league

I laughed at the weekend when a commentator said sonny bill williams and his 'wonderful' one handed offloads like it was new to do a one handed offload

One good question when that is said is "Where did you learn your rugby then?"
The usual answer is "I never learned rugby really"

Just tell them that the object of rugby is to score a try and not for the fullbacks to play tennis with the ball

Tell them the truth that the new wonder player Ashton, who is the biggest thing in union at present would not even make the starting line up for us.

Pat Richards MOS
Amos Roberts would have won MOS if he missed the post.
Sam Tomkins World best new player.

Also show them the Super League 15 DVD for the season. 1 long range try in union they get excited. Amos was doing it week in week out for us as did Tomkins.

Really?

I went to Hull myself (Needler Hall!), and it's a massive League town. Football took a back seat to League and Union wasn't even a blip on the radar.

I'm at hull :S everyone seems to go to hull

I have friends down in Richmond and they are big R.U. fans,they say that they dont like league as its to stop start for them.I couldnt convince them otherwise,how they can watch union and them say league is stop start is beying me,rucks that go on for ages,mauls that go on and on,scrums that constantly collapse,line outs,ping pong between the full backs,but you just cant convince them otherwise.

Depends what they mean by 'League is useless'? If they mean organisation, worldwide media, international events...etc then unfortunately their spot on - we cannot compare.

If they're talking about content then I'd invite them to your's mid season and invite them all to a game (Good Friday would be a belter), maybe the Leeds or Wire home games.

The rest should look after itself. TGG.

Good Uni. It's a good city too, it just gets a bad rep.

Wouldn't try justifying anything to them.

Just tell them that as you seriously doubt that they've got a clue what they're talking about you couldn't really give a toss what they think.

Sprinkle some grass killer into their lawn to spell out "RL rulez OK", then throw a brick through their front window. Then throw a petrol bomb through the same window. You've proved you point and the tedious gets won't invite you round for tea again. Double win

No it isn't (or at least wasn't).


Rugby Union used to have the games object as 'kick more goals (may have said points) than your opponents' (may have changed now since they went pro) The term 'TRY' comes from the fact you got a try at goal.

Just show them this.

You can't have a "try" at goal unless you learn how to put the ball down over the "try" line. You can always take every penalty kick on offer or alternatively attempt a drop goal whenever your in striking range, oh but wait a minute.......rugby union does that already!

That's probably what irritates me most about RU - the main tactic always seems to be to attempt to win a penalty within kicking range rather than score a try.

Because cauliflower ears are soooo attractive!

You will have to pay the "penalty" if you "try" and "convert" them, I suggest loaning my copy of a challenge-cup game at KR when Millward n Denis Betts were in charge.

I had four years there and loved every minute!