A work colleague of my eldest daughter saw Shaun Wane a few days ago at 6 a.m.
"Where are you going at this time of day Shaun?"

Wane's reply "We're in for training at 6:30"

It seems pretty clear that Maguire and Wane have revolutionised the training systems at Wigan, and we reaped the benefits immediately.

Wigan aren't just having a good run. There've been fundamental improvements all round.

As others keep saying, whatever the outcome this season in terms of pots, we've got what we asked for - a super-strong, super-fit outfit who can and will compete at the highest level.

Anything less would be UNACCEPTABLE

To be fair Rogues most of the clubs call the full time lads in for around this time as far as I know, just seems BN unlike most of the other coaches likes his lye ins.

he probably didnt call them in at 6.30 cos he had to commute from Yarkshire every day

I drive past the training ground entrance everyday, and always used to see one or two of the lads going in at around 8.15 am, not seen one this year, however i also dont see them on my way home about 5.15, as they may be leaving earlier due to starting earlier I dont know, however from what i hear Nobby pretty much lived there anyway, so i dont think thats something we should be holding against him

I saw MM yesterday around 3pm, driving up towards orrell, so I'd imagine he may have been heading to the training ground. No name dropping from me though

Thats not unusual to any professional player. Your body trains better earlier in the day.

Is this really newsworthy?

Well as some people have replied and joined in the debate then yes.

Oh and just for the record this isn't a news forum!

Even the academy are training early in a morning now . They used to train in the evening up to this season.

I saw the floodlights on at Orrell at about 9pm a week or two ago. Perhaps the players are being overtrained which will lead to burnout later in the season?

That thought did cross my mind earlier when all the talk was of the tough pre season. I recon the coaching staff know what they are doing so i cant see a burnout late in the season. Some players are rested when needed. When we get players back from injury there will be more players rested if needed

Shaun Wane is the voice of Wigan RL supporters.

Harsh. Its well known how hard he worked and how many long hours he spent at Orrell.

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Re 6.30 training.

This club has been turned on its head & its brilliant to see. My worry already is how long before an NRL club comes for MM.

To be fair Noble used to be in between 6.30am and 7am and did not leave until 7pm most days

It was said tongue in cheek a little, but i don't think its harsh to be fair.

As i said at the time i dont care how long he was at Orrell, he was not maximising that time and the improvements in the players show that. Makes me wonder what the hell he was up to half the time.

Most clubs train from 6-30 and have for a long time, as for him living in Yorkshire as an excuse, I know a few of the current Leeds squad younger lads who have to leave at 5 in the morning to make training for 6-30. It would take no more than 40 minutes max to commute at that time in the morning in a car.

Its not a pop at Noble as such more a pop at the regime that was at the club and the lethargy that was clearly part of the core issue at Wigan since Mike Gregory was removed of his duties.

Wigan under MM and IL are embracing professionalism something any serious club in any sport has to do, this includes early starts, embracing Sports Science and training methods one of which is the early starts.

BN did a job for us, he stabilised us, but he lacked the skill set/knowledge to kick us on. We now have a much more knowledgeable coach in charge, who is maximising performance by not just good coaching but also good professional knowledge and a willingness to embrace a professional attitude.

Second best is simply not acceptable for Wigan and I do not think under BN this concept was ever grasped.

As someone who doesn't live a million miles from Noble, it takes a lot more than 40 minutes, even without traffic. It takes about 20 minutes just to get to the M'way.

6:30am training?! The players can't possibly be enjoying that, surely.

Although I do worry about this, MM seems the type that will move on his terms. He was more than happy to sit as No 2 under Bellamy until he felt that he had served his apprentice for its full term.

I think that MM still believes that his time at Wigan is part of his continuous development at a head coach. Prior to heading back down south. I do not think he would be rash and jump ship just because he is offered a few quid down under.

I do not know the bloke personally (obviously) but he seems meticulous in his approach and his tenure as a head coach here will play a massive part in upping his rep in Aus prior to his departure.
Besides which IF Wane steps into the hot seat after MM, the big man will have gained a massive amount from being an understudy to a very, very good No1.
ATM We are just beginning what could be a very good time, I am loving it!!.

Early starts would suggest they would need early nights too or their performance would soon suffer. This may remove the temptation to go out on the p155.
One would hope that MM would ensure the squad gets the right amount of sleep, and that they would not be too tired for an evening kick off.
jonh knows better than most how the physiological effects of training, diet, and lifestyle can affect performance, in sport or in other avenues of work, so I'm sure MM and SW have worked it all out for each player.




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Most players will enjoy anything that they believe is giving them a competitive edge. I be surprised if there's anything other than universal 'we're loving it' in the team at the moment as they can see and feel the difference to their performances and results.

I'm not really worried about the NRL aspect. Of course I think he'll eventually take up an NRL head coach role, but I don't think he'll take just any role - I think a large part in us being able to land him in the first place was that after lots of chats with IL he really believed he'd be working for a chairman that was forward thinking and prepared to do everything possible to enable MM to do this his way and be a success. I really couldn't see MM turning up at the likes of Cronulla or Penrith for example, I think when the time comes for an NRL head coach post it will be for teams like the Broncos, Storm, possibly Roosters (if Brian Smith continues to do the sorting out the shambles ground work).

No pain no gain! I start at 7 for my job and i cant be d but tough

He will leave for Canberra Raiders in 2014