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| Just got this:
Thanks for your e-mail regarding the 6 April edition of 'Beswick at Breakfast' on BBC Radio Manchester.
We understand that you felt Allan's comments about Amos Roberts' suspected broken leg were inappropriate.
Allan Beswick is very well known as a Warrington Wolves supporter, who are currently battling with Wigan Warriors for the top spot in the Super League. His comments here were in that context, with rivals Wigan Warriors having scored a very convincing win in their match against Wakefield Trinity Wildcats on 5 April 2010, thus keeping them at the top of the table.
Allan's unique brand of humour is well known to his BBC Radio Manchester listeners who will appreciate that his comments here about both Wigan and their player Amos Roberts were not intended to be taken at all seriously, but were merely humorous comment borne out of frustration at Wigan's excellent result which kept them above Warrington in the table.
His banter with sports presenter Delyth Lloyd on the subject was clearly light-hearted with Allan in reply being jokily called a "naughty man" by Delyth.
Clearly in no way was Allan actually happy that a player suffered an injury - indeed he was genuinely full of praise for Wigan's performance even though it meant his beloved Warrington were denied the top spot as a result of their win.
The sports report also went on to focus on the incident itself in some depth including commentary clips plus a description of the match and a review of the injury incident with an interview with the team's coach describing it fully.
However, we do acknowledge your concerns over his comments and we'd like to assure you that we've registered your complaint on our audience log. This is a daily report of audience feedback that's circulated to many BBC staff, including members of the BBC Executive Board, channel controllers and other senior managers.
The audience logs are seen as important documents that can help shape decisions about future programming and content.
Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Regards
BBC Complaints
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| Clearly a standard response from someone trying to make light of it, whilst not understanding RL at all.
I'm sure we all feel the matter's been taken seriously...
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| blah blah blah b0ll0cks
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| copy and paste brigade are on the loose i see!
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| I still think we should all ring in at once one morning and complain live on air to see how he responds.
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| would anyone on here give a if he had said the same thing about John Wilkin or Kevin Sinfield, doubt it very much, too many people jumping on the bandwagon and whinging for whinging sake
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| When he had his phone-in show on the old Red Rose, there was a lad who rang him every night 2 or 3 times and just said 'Skimpy duds Alan! Skimpy duds!' and annoyed the hell out of him. Maybe we should reprise that.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"I still think we should all ring in at once one morning and complain live on air to see how he responds.'"
how many callers do you think would be able to ring in and sing "ohh w@nky w@nky" before they close the phone lines down all together
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"would anyone on here give a poop if he had said the same thing about John Wilkin or Kevin Sinfield, doubt it very much, too many people jumping on the bandwagon and whinging for whinging sake
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Well this was a response from a Wire fan - I'm of a similar mind:
[iAs a Wire fan I would not want to 'win' anything on the back of a rival team player being seriously injured. I enjoy a bit of good natured banter with the rest but this is just totally unacceptable. I admire Amos as a player and wish him a fast and full recovery. Get you act together Alan and get an apology sent out NOW!!![/i
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"would anyone on here give a poop if he had said the same thing about John Wilkin or Kevin Sinfield, doubt it very much, too many people jumping on the bandwagon and whinging for whinging sake
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Im sure most people would still think it was inappropriate
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| Quote ="stop-this-song"how many callers do you think would be able to ring in and sing "ohh w@nky w@nky" before they close the phone lines down all together
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school holidays is it ?
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| Quote ="Wire_74"school holidays is it ?'"
what is it with wire fans and taking the internet too seriously?
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| or what is it with tools like you calling the town and city of Warrington all the time
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| would you care to point out where i have "called the town and city of warrington"?
how does that even make sense? are there two warringtons?
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| Quote ="Wire_74"or what is it with tools like you calling the town and city of Warrington all the time'"
Errr was this thread about you???? Believe it or not the world does not revolve around your little club!
And BBB yes I would be bothered if it wasn't a Wigan player. Country before club, and game before that for me!
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| Did anyone expect anything else?
The bloke needs telling in no uncertain terms, face to face.
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| Quote ="Wire_74"or what is it with tools like you calling the town and city of Warrington all the time'"
Before posts like this succeed in derailing this thread into yet more tit-for-tat Wigan v Wire name-calling, can I just remind everyone that the subject is the inane Alan Beswick and how we are going to punish him for his comments about Amos's injury.
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| i think it was my comment that irritated him. i wasn't meaning to offend any warrington fans, i was only making a joke!
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| That's the standard BBC answer. I complained to them about sensationalising the snowy weather we had a few months back (bit of a joke, but I did raise a few good points ) and it follows exactly the same response.
They basically reply with what you have told them and add the additional stuff to bulk it up; whilst also completely covering their backs.
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| Ahh. BBC in above answering to the people shocker.
The sooner the license fee is abolished the better.
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| Beswick is just an annoying, ignorant, bigoted, 'know it all', loudmouth, of the type that seems to festoon the airwaves. Why these radio stations think we need to hear the politically correct drivel from these clones, I have no idea. Don't listen to him is what I say.
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| Standard, stock reply from the BBC. I saw my over comments made by Gabby Logan in respect of Gareth Thomas and how he had been given a fair go by RU since 'coming out'. Now he was switching RL, he could be susceptible to homophobic abuse.
Body of text from email:
Thanks for your e-mail about 'Gabby Logan' on BBC Radio 5 Live on 4 March.
I understand you felt that Gabby Logan implied that Rugby League fans are homophobic during an interview with Scott Quinnell regarding Gareth Thomas.
During the interview - on the subject of Thomas' switch from Rugby Union to Rugby League - Gabby asked:
"it's been such a big year for him, after announcing that he was gay, which in itself is a huge thing in his life, this is obviously a massive move for him...do you think there are fears that he might become a target for homophobic abuse from rugby league fans? Rugby union has handled the whole thing with absolute credit."
Gareth Thomas' revelations about his sexuality is a story that's been covered widely by the media and in the context of this interview about his switch, we felt it entirely appropriate to discuss how the rugby world would react.
However, I do appreciate this is an issue which you feel strongly about and I can assure you that your comments have been fully registered on our audience log. This log is made available to all members of the BBC, including the team at Radio 5 Live and senior BBC management.
This ensures that your comments and others we receive are considered across the BBC.
Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Standard, stock reply from the BBC. I saw my booty over comments made by Gabby Logan in respect of Gareth Thomas and how he had been given a fair go by RU since 'coming out'. Now he was switching RL, he could be susceptible to homophobic abuse.
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Thanks for your e-mail about 'Gabby Logan' on BBC Radio 5 Live on 4 March.
I understand you felt that Gabby Logan implied that Rugby League fans are homophobic during an interview with Scott Quinnell regarding Gareth Thomas.
During the interview - on the subject of Thomas' switch from Rugby Union to Rugby League - Gabby asked:
"it's been such a big year for him, after announcing that he was gay, which in itself is a huge thing in his life, this is obviously a massive move for him...do you think there are fears that he might become a target for homophobic abuse from rugby league fans? Rugby union has handled the whole thing with absolute credit."
Gareth Thomas' revelations about his sexuality is a story that's been covered widely by the media and in the context of this interview about his switch, we felt it entirely appropriate to discuss how the rugby world would react.
However, I do appreciate this is an issue which you feel strongly about and I can assure you that your comments have been fully registered on our audience log. This log is made available to all members of the BBC, including the team at Radio 5 Live and senior BBC management.
This ensures that your comments and others we receive are considered across the BBC.
Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.'"
which basically means they couldnt give a rats a$$ and bugger all will done about it.
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| To be honest I can't believe anybody could take his comments seriously, I know Beswick is an aggravating git but then again his remark was obviously tongue in cheek. Think this is a mountain/mole-hill scenario.
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