After his 1st two performances of the season we are starting to see the world class centre that we signed hope he has a stormer today and gets a couple of tries and shows wire they were stupid to sell him to us

Yeah but they have got Mathers remember.




I have been impressed with Gleeson's performances, I think a number of people on here stated that we needed a coach who could get the best of what we have got in terms of players, Micheal and the backroom staff are cetainly doing that and long may it continue.

Not stupid, Gleeson wanted to go and whats thye point of keeping a unhappy player.Its not good for team morale,we got a decent price for him plus a half decent fb in Mathers.

I would love gleeson to put in a man of the match performance tonight.

The post waqs going well till this point!

Which half?

From what we are seeing from all the lads this year i think it is showing the weakness' in BN's coaching and ability to motivate the Wigan team, I also think a major part of the improvement is down to us actually recruiting a real conditioning coach not the mate of a lad whose brother used to play at Wigan and once attended an aerobics class.

Gleeson hasn't been world class for about 3 years, hence nobody wanted him in the NRL and not getting a look in at the 4 nations. The deal was good for both sides.

Great First Post... Nobody on this thread has said that Gleeson is world class at the moment, but if he keep on improving and is showing the form week in week out then I see no reason why he should'nt be included in the England squad.. Shenton and Ryan Atkins are England quality Centres... your having a laugh!!

True. He was a terrific player who has just been going throgh the motions since he left Stains. Best thing for all, without doubt, as was the move for Mathers.

He didn't get a look in for England because Tony Smith held a grudge against him. Thats fair enough. Smith was the main man and he made the choices but to leave out Englands best available centre(Senior best overall but wasn't available) was a poor error regardless of which club Gleeson wanted to play for.

I hope Gleeson takes out any frustrations tonight. He's looked razor sharp in the first 2 games and is ready to have a huge year by the looks of him.

Gleeson can be awesome on his day,he just never had many of those at Wire.

Watch out for Atkins tonight he's not done much attack wise so far so tonight could be the night.

I rate Gleeson when he's interested but that deal of Mathers and 100k was very good.

His record at Wire was pretty good was it not?

He was once a fans favourite aswell. I always thought he was one of Wires better players when things weren't going that well but in all honesty the move to Warrington was one he never really wanted.

Things worked out for both clubs, Gleeson and Mathers in the end.

Yeah everyone knows he was forced out by Saints and didn't want to play for us, at times he was top notch then he would go missing Smith saw enough not to like and shipped him out.

was good enough to get rid of Mathers for 100k was a bonus we got Gleeson in the deal

To be fair to Gleeson, he must have been seriously pi$$ed about what happened. Yes, he was "guilty" (allegedly) of trangressions, but so was Long. I don't want to get into the why's and wherefore's, but he was the scapegoat for sure. And to add insult to injury... He got dumped in Warrington..

pi$$ed??

You should of seen his face when he was shown to the crowd after he was signed.

Mathers is returning to the form he showed at Leeds under smith now,once again under smith at warrington. I wonder if it was the coaching rather than the player that was the problem during his spell at wigan?

Give over, the Cas game last week was how Mathers performed for Wigan on a regular basis.
Evans walked past him, and than the c*ck up from the kick that led to Cas's third try.

Vintage Mathers I'm afraid.

No, his lack of a pair in defence is his problem, same as at Leeds. Great going forward in a team making chances, but crap in defence, especially front on defence.

He was soon found out in Australia, and to say his injury was the reason he came home is naive. If they thought he was worth keeping, they'd have kept him and got him fit.

If it was I'd suspect it was the previous regime.

Mathers blows very hot and cold and often comes up with brainfarts - like the one he did at Cas last week. The ones he did at Wigan tended to be difference in the final result, which didn't help him warm to the fans.

The two red cards spring to mind when i think of mathers time at Wigan, even though he had some decent games

name them

Mathers is not a reliable fullback hes the weak link in your side and on tonights "anti social" performance Im glad he is no longer involved with Wigan.