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| During the season this lad scored more trys per game than ANY other super league player! all he as done wrong is that he is dodgy when a ball is kicked to him but... surley scoring trys is better than conceding the odd one or two! so this season Maguire will have to think of either choosing Roberts or Ainscough.
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| or should i say next season
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| Quote ="MR FRISK"During the season this lad scored more trys per game than ANY other super league player! all he as done wrong is that he is dodgy when a ball is kicked to him but... surley scoring trys is better than conceding the odd one or two! so this season Maguire will have to think of either choosing Roberts or Ainscough.'"
I think its up to all the players to fight for their place next season. Hopefully Shaun will get his chance, I would like to see him start next to Gleeson next year on the right. Needs to learn how to take the high ball though. He's young, and hopefully he is not too thick, and will learn how to catch a bomb?
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| And so it begins DaveO v Jukesays round II.
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| Quote ="cadoo"And so it begins DaveO v Jukesays round II.'"
Bring it on
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| Quote ="jjb10"I think its up to all the players to fight for their place next season. Hopefully Shaun will get his chance, I would like to see him start next to Gleeson next year on the right. Needs to learn how to take the high ball though. He's young, and hopefully he is not too thick, and will learn how to catch a bomb?'"
What, like famous Amos does?
Not.
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| Quote ="proper-shaped-balls"
What, like famous Amos does?
Not.'"
They are both shocking, but the point is Amos is 28 (I think)? and Shaun is 19. Shaun should get better, Amos not too sure he will.
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| I really dont see how people can defend Roberts , i know its his first season but c'mon he was shocking , a liability who doesnt make up for it in attack. He needs a kick up the @rse and a spell in the reserves like Pat Richards did.
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| Roberts was out scored (tries only) by Richards, Ainscough and Carmont and scored the same amount as Sam Tomkins.
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| Quote ="jjb10"Roberts was out scored (tries only) by Richards, Ainscough and Carmont and scored the same amount as Sam Tomkins.'"
Aye Roberts record is 11 try's in 33 games compared to Ainscoughs 17 in 12..
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| Thing is with Ainscough, his size also makes him a liability. Even Roberts would have a field day in the air against him.
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| Quote ="p1e e8ter"Thing is with Ainscough, his size also makes him a liability. Even Roberts would have a field day in the air against him.'"
Yeah Jason Robinson had terrible problems, with his size.
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| It would be interesting to see stats for tries scored by Wigan wingers playing on the left hand side compared to the right. Some people would be shocked at how many of our tries come on the right side of the field I think. Only in the latter part of the season did the play of our side become balanced, which coincidently resulted in Amos' better form.
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| Can't belive this has come up again, borrrrrrrrrrring!
Let the new boss decide, he will see all the players in training every day, none of us will!!
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| Quote ="flyingkelvin"Can't belive this has come up again, borrrrrrrrrrring!
Let the new boss decide, he will see all the players in training every day, none of us will!!'"
I agree. I'm sure the new coaching set-up will make the correct decision.
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| Given our new coach has employed AFL training methods in catching balls at the Storm I would expect all our wingers & full backs to improve under the high ball
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| Amos's centre has really been ripping it up since we signed him as well.
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| My cousin is mates with Shaun and he's told him that he's considerin a season long loan at Salford next year. But maybe McGuire will want him here
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| Not everything that happens ends up in the public domain...there were other reasons that contributed to him not playing more games
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| Quote ="jjb10"Roberts was out scored (tries only) by Richards, Ainscough and Carmont and scored the same amount as Sam Tomkins.'"
Which Wigan player broke the most tackles? Other than scoring the tries, it isn't just scoring tries that matter. But is it any coincidence still that Ainscough was on the left wing scoring a bagful, Richards on the left wing scoring plentyful. But when Roberts played full back and Richards was on the right wing he was also in abit of a drought, it's only since he's moved to the left that he's been scoring more tries. I personally think Amos is a good player, yes his try scoring could be better but everyone has said in the past that we don't score many tries down our right hand side. Amos does alot of un noticed work which is why I mentioned which player broke the most tackles, which surely means he does alot of work.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"Which Wigan player broke the most tackles? Other than scoring the tries, it isn't just scoring tries that matter. But is it any coincidence still that Ainscough was on the left wing scoring a bagful, Richards on the left wing scoring plentyful. But when Roberts played full back and Richards was on the right wing he was also in abit of a drought, it's only since he's moved to the left that he's been scoring more tries. I personally think Amos is a good player, yes his try scoring could be better but everyone has said in the past that we don't score many tries down our right hand side. Amos does alot of un noticed work which is why I mentioned which player broke the most tackles, which surely means he does alot of work.'"
Mini you're wasting your time mate with a lot of people.
I just hope people can give everybody a fair crack next season.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"Which Wigan player broke the most tackles? Other than scoring the tries, it isn't just scoring tries that matter. But is it any coincidence still that Ainscough was on the left wing scoring a bagful, Richards on the left wing scoring plentyful. But when Roberts played full back and Richards was on the right wing he was also in abit of a drought, it's only since he's moved to the left that he's been scoring more tries. I personally think Amos is a good player, yes his try scoring could be better but everyone has said in the past that we don't score many tries down our right hand side. Amos does alot of un noticed work which is why I mentioned which player broke the most tackles, which surely means he does alot of work.'"
If you read the previous quote's rather than just jumping on one, you will see I say give them all a fair crack of the whip.
The last time I watched rugby, Tries won you games not tackles bust. I am aware he saves tackles with his recovery play I am only pointing out thatRoberts was outscored. So get a grip sunshine.
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| Quote ="jjb10"If you read the previous quote's rather than just jumping on one, you will see I say give them all a fair crack of the whip.
The last time I watched rugby, Tries won you games not tackles bust.
I am aware he saves tackles with his recovery play I am only pointing out thatRoberts was outscored. So get a grip sunshine.'"
But your very quick to jump on the Roberts bandwaggon and quickly forget previous wingers on the right hand side who also had poor records.
Of course tries wins you games, but so do the players that work their ass off from the back of the play which Roberts does alot of and goes un noticed. If Roberts was on the left wing whose to say he wouldn't finish top try scorer? Everyone has said plenty of times we score more tries down our left hand side but just because it's Roberts people quickly forget about it then.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"But your very quick to jump on the Roberts bandwaggon and quickly forget Richard's try scoring rate when he was on the right wing before he got moved to the left which wasn't very good reading by the way.
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Don't really think I have jumped on any bandwagon? Just the fact that they are both dodgy under the high ball. Ainscough has Youth and a long career in front of him (hopefully), and as I said I hope Shaun isn't too thick to learn. Roberts on the other hand, will he learn at this stage in his career regardless what wing he plays on. I for one would like to see Shaun get another crack and run in the first team. As for Roberts give him a full pre season in the English winter and see how he plays next year.
Not my decision, the new coaching team will see how they train and progress and hopefully give us a winning team.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"But your very quick to jump on the Roberts bandwaggon and quickly forget previous wingers on the right hand side who also had poor records.
Of course tries wins you games, but so do the players that work their ass off from the back of the play which Roberts does alot of and goes un noticed. If Roberts was on the left wing whose to say he wouldn't finish top try scorer? Everyone has said plenty of times we score more tries down our left hand side but just because it's Roberts people quickly forget about it then.'"
Just admit that Roberts is crap and that even O'Carroll would make a better winger than him.
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