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| I know we have invested in him but he doesn't look good enough to me. Goes down far too easy for a big lad.
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| Cant believe hes been given a new contract
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| Quote ="smithovyick"I know we have invested in him but he doesn't look good enough to me. Goes down far too easy for a big lad.'"
i thought he had a decent game tbh, made decent metres ball in hand and looked a danger near there line. Granted there were a few missed passes etc but to me he looked a threat. If he had a run in the team i think those mistakes would be cut out and he could be a good centre.
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| Thought he played well tonight
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| Quote ="Pemps"icon_confused.gif Thought he played well tonight'"
i agree.
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| He was pretty good tbh. It's a long term thing. Seriously we clearly have a plan to see how he develops and hope he will be a good player. People complain when we panic sign aussies. Some people you can just never please.
He has potential to be a good player.
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| He did good and bad things tonight but overall i thought he went ok for a lad thats played about 5 games of first team rugby league in 3 years.
He'll never look overly interested because thats just him but if we can get him fitter he can do a job for us in the long run even if it's only as a squad player.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"He was pretty good tbh. It's a long term thing. Seriously we clearly have a plan to see how he develops and hope he will be a good player. People complain when we panic sign aussies. Some people you can just never please.
He has potential to be a good player.'"
Surely after 2 years back he should be better than 'potentially' a good player. And I still say he goes down too easy.
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| Quote ="smithovyick"Surely after 2 years back he should be better than 'potentially' a good player. And I still say he goes down too easy.'"
but he hasn't been back two years. He's been back playing regular rugby for 6 months.
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| He shows signs of what he is capable of, but he is so out of shape it is ridiculous.
He is 5 yards off the pace, but did tonight show signs of his potential.
Worth a further year but needs a massive off season.
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| Quote ="inside_man"but he hasn't been back two years. He's been back playing regular rugby for 6 months.'"
Thought he signed two years ago and we nursed him back all last season
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| Quote ="inside_man"but he hasn't been back two years. He's been back playing regular rugby for 6 months.'"
Exactly.
He's played about 5 first grade rugby league games in about 4 years so abit of rustyness is understandable.
He's never going to be Gary Connolly in sheer effort and guts terms but he went well tonight.
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| Quote ="smithovyick"Thought he signed two years ago and we nursed him back all last season'"
we did, but he hasn't been able to play matches for long periods of that time. I think it was close to him being 2 years without playing a match, thats a long period to come back from and takes a while.
He should be fitter by know, i'm not denying that, but i still think he'll be a goo dplayer for us. If we got a proper conditioner in he would work wonders.
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| from what i can count he bombed at least 3 try scoring chances, and with his size he goes down to easily.
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| They need to give him some tough love and flog him in pre season. He needs to be running up and down winter hill all off season to get him in shape.
People around Rivvy should be sick of the sight of Feka, Riddell and Pryce come January next year.
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| Quote ="inside_man"Quote ="smithovyick"Thought he signed two years ago and we nursed him back all last season'"
we did, but he hasn't been able to play matches for long periods of that time. I think it was close to him being 2 years without playing a match, thats a long period to come back from and takes a while.
He should be fitter by know, i'm not denying that, but i still think he'll be a goo dplayer for us. If we got a proper conditioner in he would work wonders.'" '"
I do hope I'm wrong about him - but I just don't think I am - would love to be proved wrong though
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| I thought he was pretty good tonight. If somebody takes ur legs from behind, it doesnt matter how big you are, which is what happened a number of times in the first half.
He also put some real big hits in, in defence especially in the first half. He was up against Tony Clubb tonight, who's form got him in the England squad for the international the other week and I never noticed him at all.
keep the faith and with a bit of patience, we might just have the best English strike centre for many a year
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"from what i can count he bombed at least 3 try scoring chances, and with his size he goes down to easily.'"
I knew he would get slated for a couple of those. The first one was an excellent text book tackle to bring him down.
Took his own try well, and looked off the pace for the other.
Defended very well tonight put in some massive hits. When he took it in from a 1 up drive (which was not enough granted) he looked a handfull.
The key to him is brining in someone to get him in shape, its clear he is not at the moment.
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| Quote ="smithovyick"I know we have invested in him but he doesn't look good enough to me. Goes down far too easy for a big lad.'" have faith in him, for an 18 stone he is immense
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| I thought he had a decent game as well, he seemed to bring some of the stuff he does in the reserves into the first team.
Not sure if it was because of Karl or not but I thought Amos Roberts had one of his better games tonight.
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| Quote ="jonh"I knew he would get slated for a couple of those. The first one was an excellent text book tackle to bring him down.
Took his own try well, and looked off the pace for the other.
Defended very well tonight put in some massive hits. When he took it in from a 1 up drive (which was not enough granted) he looked a handfull.
The key to him is brining in someone to get him in shape, its clear he is not at the moment.'"
i agree, he showed flashes tonight of what hes capable of and another 12 months will make or break his wigan career. he needs to train his ass off in the off season and another half dozen games will improve his sharpness. a previous post says he bummed three chances, the first was a fantastic tackle low and hard, the others were face passes to roberts which he got in the way of. match sharpness will sort that. i think karl is a project worth investing in, at least for another year
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| Quote ="jonh"He shows signs of what he is capable of, but he is so out of shape it is ridiculous.
He is 5 yards off the pace, but did tonight show signs of his potential.
Worth a further year but needs a massive off season.'"
Fully agreed.
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| He's great. Was starved of posession. Especially in the 2nd half. Someone pass to him ffs.
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| There's potential there certainly but clearly lacking fitness.
His demaneour will mean he will struggle to get on the right side of most Wigan fans.
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| I don't think its match fitness he lacks, but playing in the same team week in week out. His timing was off on a couple of occasions which meant the ball went to ground, with regularly playing with the same guys instead of the reserves this guy will be great for us.. I have said on other topic that on his "reserves" form he deserves a chance and I think he took it well. Give him a few games in the first team to get used to playing and he will be great for us.
He is a feka in the centres.. well done karl keep it up...
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