He needs to stop telling us that "changing the coach is the easy way, not the right way" and cut away the dead-wood that is Brian Noble. The thing that angered me more than anything else today was that at the end of the game, Noble told the players to come over and face the wrath of the fans - But he didn't have the to head over himself. If went scuttling off to the dressing room to hide. Frankly, if that embarrassment isn't enough to draw a letter of resignation from him, then Lenagan HAS to sack him, or be personally responsible for our position/plight. And before any trolls start with "you got home quick" - I'm on the club coach, just turning on to the A449 near Cardiff

Enjoy the looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong journey home.

Thanks for that Andy.

6 hours down and probably 5 hours back, for 80 minutes of shiit

And the m5 was getting shut at 10pm so a nice diversion too. We managed to get back in wigan at 10.30ish and got through before they shut it. Anyway cheers to the team for my depressing journey home.

Dry coach is it?

Ouch!

Sack the bloke now. This season is salvagable, we have the players, we have the potential, we lack the direction.

Agreed.

Agreed, but will he?

I agree jonh, and no he will not sack him imo.

IL will not sack Noble. He doesn't have the balls. I can see far more disappointment coming before the end of the season. We won't get to Wembley under Noble unless we catch Wire on an off day. 5 drives and a kick doesn't work in SL. We had enough opportunities to win the game today but tried to barge over rather than play rugby.

I can't see noble going while we are still in the CC...but if we lose to the wire???

Bollocks, it's clearly the dead weight in the team that needs shifting.

If anyone says 'yea but you can't just rid of players but you can the coach' then you are a ing moron

The same dead weight that slapped Stains at Murrayfield and got to two Elimination Finals in the last two years? Or were we just getting carried away?

its nothing to do with the players they are good enough they just need coaching correctly, noble is a one plan man and most other coaches have found him out.

It's time for Noble to go !

Lenaghan is a waste of time. He should stick to Emmerdale farm.

We are the laughing stock of the superleague now.

Bring back Mo !

Is that the Team Coach or a Supporters Coach from the Club?

Agreed!

To be fair, other fans have been laughing at you for a while now, it's not just down to Leneghan.

I think IL is doing a good job.

I do have some concerns though about the way the club is going.

IL said some time ago that we were very short of coaching resorces at the club but other than Kris R cannot think of many other additions since.

I cannot understand why Steve Hampson is not sorting out our fitness.

Also under the salary cap we must gain competitive advantage by having the best management, coaching and fitness conditioning in SL (and NRL). In this respect we are woeful and one change would make a big difference. ILs job is simple, find the best coach who commands the respect of the players (short and long term) and get him.

Well, being fair is always your main priority.

it is obvious that the players have no respect for noble,but in taking that attitude the loyal wigan fans are suffering.with the team we had out yesterday they should have won without a coach.that display was worse that the one against hudds last year.

I've never been agianst noble as coach, up until now.

Last night set me thinking, for 3 seasons we have watched wigan play well one week and then l undue all their work the next week. Some of the rugby we are playing is poor, has been all season apart from saints and a 20 minute spell agianst Salford.

We have an all most entirely new squad compared with when noble took over and we still don't know how to win tight games.

We are desperate for a prop who can instill some fear into the players opposite him.

Even if we bring a new prop in though, even if he exactly fits the bill, will that fix our problems? I don't think so somehow. IL is doing a fantastic job, signing the best players he can with the money available, but I think it's time for a new coach to lead those players. Who is an entirely different question

It will be a good season if we win the Challenge Cup, which is certainly a possibility.

Secondly, getting rid of the coach is not going to get our players to catch the ball or stop giving away penalties. NOble needs to start dropping some of our supposed 'superstars'.

A coach who actually coaches the technical aspects of the game would. Given our failure to improve in this aspect over the last 3 years we can only assume firstly he does not, or if he does he is very poor at it, either way not good enough.

Looking around at our squad, it is more than capable of being top 3.

Realistically, 3rd is the lowest position that we should ever be in.

However - Brian Noble (as has been said before) is a one-"plan" man, and I struggle to call what he sends the team out with a "plan".

Yesterday, we spent half the match with our wingers in the prop positions, looking for work. We had Andy Coley at a couple of points, on the wing, trying to make a break.

The defence got sucked in to centre-field just about every time, leaving us open to the wide attack.

Personally, I wouldn't change much about the squad membership. The players we have are fine (although I'm not saying that an extra, nasty prop wouldn't go amiss).

What we need is someone in charge who can either do, or organise, the following:
Game plan - 5 drives and a kick is not enough. Catch up to every other coach in SL/NRL and stop recycling the Dulls old method
Fitness - get them all up to their peak form
Teamwork - They need to start playing for each other, every week
Defence - Sack Vievers - In the words of Jim, "Defensive Coach - My árse"
Respect - The players need to be made to respect the coach, each other, the ball and most of all, the Wigan tradition/expectation.
And finally, the biggest one:
Motivation - Brian Noble couldn't motivate a lottery winner to go get his money. The guy is useless.

Please Ian, listen to the fans, or if not, just look at Bilko's stats on our win ratio over the Superleague years.

It all points to one thing - Noble is NOT the man for Wigan any more.

We need someone with fresh ideas, motivational skills, a new fitness team/regime and some idea of how a game plan needs to evolve both over the course of a game, and a season.