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| Good interview with IL on GMR - anyone hear it?
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a) when he was in Australia he was disappointed by some of the players he had on his hit list, but saw a few that he felt that we could pursue
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d) sounds like he wants Noble to get to/win a final before he offers a new contract
He seems to be talking the talk, let's just see what the next few months bring...
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| Never one to turn down a microphone is he.....
Nothing new gained from the interview.
What is depressing is that he again referred to next season AND the season after, it seems every year recruitment will always be for the season after next. He promised we would see big changes in 2010 but im less confident than ever now.
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| Quote ="AJ"Never one to turn down a microphone is he.....
Nothing new gained from the interview.
What is depressing is that he again referred to next season AND the season after, it seems every year recruitment will always be for the season after next. He promised we would see big changes in 2010 but im less confident than ever now.'"
When listening to the interview I realised that there's something that irritates me about Lenagan and you've helped me put my finger on it.
The fact is the bloke does love the spotlight - he does more than any other SL chairman to stay in it. IMO he's all talk and a little arrogant in all honesty.
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| He was banging on about some prop who is 24, reminds him of J Graham and did 60 minuted straight. Just made his Origin debut.
As if we will sign him, why even talk about it.
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| Quote ="Madderzahatter"Good interview with IL on GMR - anyone hear it?
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a) when he was in Australia he was disappointed by some of the players he had on his hit list, but saw a few that he felt that we could pursue
b) wants to hook up with an Aussie club so we can swap players
c) wants to see more youngsters come through the ranks
d) sounds like he wants Noble to get to/win a final before he offers a new contract
He seems to be talking the talk, let's just see what the next few months bring...'"
d) worries me. A cup final or even a win should not guarantee BN a new deal a league final should but given the nature of the cup i do not think given the rest of the performances a cup win would justify a new contract as it would basically mean playing well in 2 games.
On top of that it will be very late in the day to be looking for a top quality coach to replace him, or retain him. The decision in my opinion on BN's future needs to be made now at the latest, there is no point in waiting till the end if the year for any party.
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| Quote ="jonh"d) worries me. A cup final or even a win should not guarantee BN a new deal a league final should but given the nature of the cup i do not think given the rest of the performances a cup win would justify a new contract as it would basically mean playing well in 2 games.
On top of that it will be very late in the day to be looking for a top quality coach to replace him, or retain him. The decision in my opinion on BN's future needs to be made now at the latest, there is no point in waiting till the end if the year for any party.'"
From the interview, it sounded like Noble was staying to me. As long as we pick up form and momentum for the rest of the year.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"When listening to the interview I realised that there's something that irritates me about Lenagan and you've helped me put my finger on it.
The fact is the bloke does love the spotlight - he does more than any other SL chairman to stay in it. IMO he's all talk and a little arrogant in all honesty.'"
May be the reason BN and IL do not get on allegedly, both show pony's who crave the media spotlight.
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| Quote ="jonh"May be the reason BN and IL do not get on allegedly, both show pony's who crave the media spotlight.'"
Who says the don't get on? The impression I get is always the opposite.
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| Quote ="AJ"From the interview, it sounded like Noble was staying to me. As long as we pick up form and momentum for the rest of the year.'"
Wonderful!
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| Quote ="AJ"Who says the don't get on? The impression I get is always the opposite.'"
Plenty of people, including the media and posters on here, and i did say allegedly.
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| Quote ="jonh"Plenty of people, including the media and posters on here, and i did say allegedly.'"
I wasn't implying you were talking rubbish, I just wondered if you were implying you had heard something.
Quote ="jonh"Wonderful!'"
Isn't it
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| Quote ="AJ"I wasn't implying you were talking rubbish, I just wondered if you were implying you had heard something.
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If you are happy for another year of underachievement....yes.
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| Quote ="jonh"If you are happy for another year of underachievement....yes.'"
Im happy we can continue to talk about Nobby
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| Quote ="AJ"He was banging on about some prop who is 24, reminds him of J Graham and did 60 minuted straight. Just made his Origin debut.'"
Justin Poore.
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| Quote ="AJ"Im happy we can continue to talk about Nobby
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So am i if he gets us to the Grand Final, if not as the coach of another team.
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| From my experience it's best to ignore Jonh.
His lack of intellect is only surpassed by his inability to evaluate serious debate.
On topic.
Upon hearing that interview I am baffled.
Strange game going on there imo.
As I have always said though, judge BN at the end of the season where it matters, not at this stage.
Thus far BN has massively achieved imo.
Relegation===> Semi Finals.
We will be there or there abouts this season.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"From my experience it's best to ignore Jonh.
His lack of intellect is only surpassed by his inability to evaluate serious debate.
On topic.
Upon hearing that interview I am baffled.
Strange game going on there imo.
As I have always said though, judge BN at the end of the season where it matters, not at this stage.
Thus far BN has massively achieved imo.
Relegation===> Semi Finals.
We will be there or there abouts this season.'"
Its best you do ignore me as i am board of making your self proclaimed great debating skills and eye for a rugby player look silly of late. Dummy spits all the way over the last few weeks Brett
Realistically should we/could we wait till the end of the year to offer him a new deal?
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| Quote ="jonh"Realistically should we/could we wait till the end of the year to offer him a new deal?'"
I suspect we will, or if we win the cup, a new deal will follow quickly.
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| Quote ="AJ"I suspect we will, or if we win the cup, a new deal will follow quickly.'"
If either scenario are correct, we will be basing offering our coach a contract off the back of 2 good games and/or offering him a deal when no other club wants him.
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| Quote ="jonh"Realistically should we/could we wait till the end of the year to offer him a new deal?'"
It would be a massive, massive gamble imo to stick with him until the end of the season as we could miss out on other potential coaches and any recruitment will be done without our potential future coaches input.
A realistic goal or time frame imo should be from now until the CC semi. If we can go on a decent good run of form, improve every week and win the CC semi against Warrington Noble should be offered a new 1 year contract imo so we can put this issue to bed.
If we struggle again consistency as we have done all season and lose a few games including the CC semi final then we should get shut.
We can’t draw it out for two long either way.
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| Quote ="jonh"Its best you do ignore me as i am board of making your self proclaimed great debating skills and eye for a rugby player look silly of late. Dummy spits all the way over the last few weeks Brett
Realistically should we/could we wait till the end of the year to offer him a new deal?'"
John John John, deary me.
It's only YOU who proclaim my debating skills as "great".
Cite one post from me where I say this if you disagree....................
You are "board" are you? .............ply board? plaster board? Are you really this thick or do you try harder on this forum?
It really is like having a discussion with an 8 year old.
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| Quote ="jonh"If either scenario are correct, we will be basing offering our coach a contract off the back of 2 good games and/or offering him a deal when no other club wants him.'"
We don't know that no other club wants him, I can think of at least two that might show an interest.
If he delivers a trophy, he deserves to stay, there are only two to win, if we win one, we have been successful.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"John John John, deary me.
It's only YOU who proclaim my debating skills as "great".
Cite one post from me where I say this if you disagree....................
You are "board" are you? .............ply board? plaster board? Are you really this thick or do you try harder on this forum?
It really is like having a discussion with an 8 year old.'"
It is funny how you feel you have to pick the spelling and grammar out of my posts yet fail to respond to the points addressed. Its another BK trait all over. As for debating skills its on a pm you sent me, i chose not to retain yours though .
Regards 8 year olds shall i refer you to numerous dummy spits from yourself over the last few weeks?!
Lets get back to the question i asked rather than avoid it at all costs. Is it realistic to wait till the end of the season to judge Noble as you have stated from a Wigan point of view?
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It is funny how you feel you have to pick the spelling and grammar out of my posts yet fail to respond to the points addressed. Its another BK trait all over. As for debating skills its on a pm you sent me, i chose not to retain yours though
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Regards 8 year olds shall i refer you to numerous dummy spits from yourself over the last few weeks?!
Lets get back to the question i asked rather than avoid it at all costs. Is it realistic to wait till the end of the season to judge Noble as you have stated from a Wigan point of view?'"
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You have still the intellect and grammar of an 8 year old.
Go away you annoying pest.
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| Quote ="AJ"We don't know that no other club wants him, I can think of at least two that might show an interest.
If he delivers a trophy, he deserves to stay, there are only two to win, if we win one, we have been successful.'"
Given he is out of contract at the end of the year BN will be looking to secure his future, if an offer is not on the table in the next 2-3 weeks we can rest assured no other club will be seeking his services for the start of SL 2010, so basically we will be offering a coach who is not in demand by any other club a deal. Not a position Wigan should be in. The fact he has not already signed a deal speaks volumes in my opinion.
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