Honestly I think the guy is a decent coach. I would like to see the club show patience but a club with wigans track record I would not be blown away should they part company in the next few weeks(results permitting).

As poor as wigan were tonight I think the coach needs time to ship certain players out or new coach brought in for the good of the comp.

We weren't great out wide tonight but you were soft up the middle. Would you get rid or give him time to clear out a few players???

Its split. Many want him gone. Many want him to stay.

The test for Noble is what he does about the senior pro's who aren't performing and if he continues to give youth a run.

The problem will come next week if the fall guys were Sam or Shaun.

I had my doubts early season - has Noble lost the dressing room... But now is not the time for sacking. I think he can turn it around and we have a good squad to make a real impression. Tonight was just one of those nights. The early 40/20 set the tone for the game and it was a struggle to get a foothold from there on.

Don't panic!!!!

Roll on next week.

I've always thought 2010 would be an acid test for Noble, Lenagan and the club in general because thats the season the majority of what i'd call 'deadwood' is off contract and should have left the club. To me given the fact that theres no relegation this year we should use this season as a way of bedding in a few youngsters to get used to the bigtime intime for us having a good pop at a trophy next year.

Aslong as Noble continues to give youth it's chance this season as and when they deserve it and doesn't blame them for all our failings i'll be happy enough to see him in charge beyond this season.

I'm not 100% sure that will be the case though.

The last two weeks show he hasn't. What we need is our "senior pros" to step up.

Exactly.

If he puts the blame at the door of the likes of Sam, Ainscough or O'Carroll tonight he's be totally wrong and people would be within their rights to call for his head on the back of a poor preformence at Salford without those lads included.

The more Senior pro's at the club like Richards, Bailey, Fielden and Hock were poor tonight and need to shoulder the majority of the blame imo.

The test is does he learn from his mistakes, the answer is no.

We will continue to win the odd game and perform well once in a blue moon which will have some in raptures on here.

The fact is he was taught a lesson tonight by his opposite number, fact. Will he learn from it, if form is to go by. No.

I agree, but everyone must step up, not just senior pros...everyone!!!!
We are a team and a community that we should all stand up and be counted...fans included, we should get behind this team, not slag em off, calling for him to be dropped or him to be sacked. Get behind them, if you don't want to we don't need that kind of 'support'. Stay at home and watch coronation street
ps AJ not a dig at you pal x

Sam & Shaun are Nobles saviours so far..The shining light amongst a bunch of overpaid pretenders..They have at least a couple of years grace where mistakes....Etc are concerned..IMO.

If you'd have swapped coaches tonight who do you think would have won the game?

IMO i see no evidence to suggest that Mclennan is a better coach then what Noble is. The fact is he's just inherited a far better team. Noble has had a couple of years to try and build a side and he's done pretty well at it with his hands tied behind his back in a way because of the salary cap and the fact we have some players tied up on big deals who don't warrent them.

C'mon mate noble signed bailey,coley and phelps that's something that can't be excused!!

So you reackon things will actually improve if Noble was sacked???

Now is not the time to sack the coach...

I agree



Noble has played the younger players but has only done so when needs must with the exception of dropping Tim Smith. He got some brownie points from me for that but he didn't have much choice IMO. He also got some for sticking with them v Leeds.

However if he drops the young players for next week and reverts to his usual selection style the knives will be out. Particularly if we don't play well or lose as it isn't the young players who are under performing.

Dave

nice to see opinion split. Boards decision isn't usually to far away from the fans calls. Credit to you for the patience.

Giving him the season is a better option but I think it's clear some of the guys aren't cutting it for him, nothing a nice off season cut wouldn't solve.

Defensive line tactics, acting half tactics. They had NO hooker tonight and every player regardless of position had the skills to pass off the ground a basic skill we lack. Leeds were far from full strength tonight and they hammered us. Not to mention the bench tactics.

That would be allowing Noble 4 1/2 seasons to get the team playing.

The problem I have is that in the meantime the team fails to live up to its billing. That has got to be down to the coach.

We have seen good players come and go who were swimming against the tide (Barrett) or not used properly e.g. Calderwood. So there have been missed opportunities under Noble as well.

The team should IMO be doing better than it is regardless of the "deadwood". As far I as I know the only legacy contracts will be Fielden's, Bailey's and TL's and the majority of our current squad were signed under Noble or had contracts renewed under Noble. Are we really excusing Noble based on the salaries of three players?



I have always said he will get this season regardless but still believe youth has only got it's chance under Noble by accident rather then design. Nothing has changed my view on either subject this season. Yes OK he dropped Smith for Tomkins but I think he would have been sacked by now had he not done so, so it isn't enough to convince me has has turned over a new leaf as regards player selection.

Dave

Noble should not be sacked this year. I won't budge on that. I believe their is at least a cup winning 17 within our squad, and we aren't far from having it on the field.

If this season continues as it has started with disapointing losses, then a high which can't be backed up, then he won't have his contract renewed simple.

We can't go OTT tonight, Leeds were bloody good and deserve credit.

As I said earlier, next weeks team selection is a big one for Noble.

Leeds had three major first team players off sick, and still made us look crap.. we havent progressed, we are stagnant and im sure our crowds will prove so..Lucky to avergage 13.500 this season..

Massive against a team we should easily beat.

Nothing to do with that. Regardless of how poor Salford might be, if the Noble doubters are correct re youth we will see next week.

There are so so many issues other than selection it is not even funny!

Stevie Wonder would not drop Tomkins or Ainscough so, regards youth he has to promote others after today against Salford and then retain them against Hudds to be even close to be proven right.

Yes, he does. Mossop and Pryce should get a run at least.

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who for?

I would lose Carmont or Roberts. Depending on Pryce's fitness level. Roberts comes across as lazy, Carmont has been poor for most of the season.

Mossop would get in before Hansen or Joel next week for me.

Prescott for Fielden/Coley - again depending on fitness.

You would drop Carmont or Roberts for Pryce over Bailey? Why?

Mossop for Hanse i agree with.

Thought Fielden and Coley went well tonight, O'Carroll was poor.