When he was at Huddersfield Chris Thormans short kicking game caused Wigan all sorts of problems. They scored so many tries from it.

If Wigans defense doesn't align itself properly to cover those kicks there could be serious trouble.

Beware.

Not negative, merely an observation.

Not having Mathers at the back has got to be a start.

Alternatively TL's short kicking game causes everyone problems.

Something we don't take advantage of enough, especially given that Joel Tomkins seems to have inherited Fletcher's ability to be on the back of goal line grubbers.

Good point, i remember Lam & Radlinksi having a similar move and we scored a bag load from it.

Thorman can either be brilliant or he can be a passenger.

And the knife slips in again...

Come off it with the eye-rolling.

Several times I've expressed concern about Mathers' personal wellbeing. At present, for whatever reason, he's not up to SL standard. It's doing no good, either to him or us, playing him in the first team at present. He needs time in the reserves to rebuild his confidence.

My biggest fear is we hammer them playing some wonderfull rugby, as it will then give Noble an excuse for us to have a 10 game spell of garbage again.


Ball retention is my biggest fear, all too often it is nothing short of disgusting.

Defence outwide is also another major worry. Hull have some pace and power in the centre and that could kill us down the right hand side if we do not improve considerably from last week.

Finally selection is my fear, if Coley is selected i will dispare, not happy about Bailey being selected either but Coley has to be dropped.

If one of these is not dropped i think we can see what our Coach is all about.

Biggest fear is that Hull score first, our heads go down and we never recover...

Wigan are specials to win at Hull, they'll bounce back.

My biggest fear is will the pies be any good at the KC



Seriously though mate I totally agree with what you say.

When he got dropped in the reserves last year he refused to play...

Breach of contact surely?

I've got some bad news for you...

Sorry.



I was just dismayed that a new thread had immediately veered off towards Mathers again. The worst thing he did on Sunday was pull out of the 50/50 kick through. Admittedly, that had me fuming but we have far more pressing concerns than Mathers' defence.

At the end of the day that team - including Mathers - only conceded 12 points. With anything like an attack we should have been able to overcome that. That IMO is the overriding concern at Wigan.

To a team consisting of the clubs 17 only fit players, god help us what a fully fit top 6 squad would have done to us!!! (no disrespect to Wakefield, who had they taken all there chances would have been 20 up at halftime)

No arguments there. Mathers wasn't the only one at fault in that side defensively, and yes, our lack of attack is the biggest worry.

As for Friday night, I can't see how we'll have been able to put it right in five days.

Surely your worst fear must be being snowed in and having to spend the weekend in Hull

Hmm not really wanting to put my head over the parapet and get it shot off, as I am not usually overcritical of players, but didnt Mathers allow perfectly catchable bombs to bounce at least 3 times on sunday ?

Steve Hampson would turn in his grave, if he were dead

Thought they were all still living in caravans after last years flooding. Therefore, the floods will freeze and we can simply skate outta town

Whilst Leeds lost to Hull and Wakefield in friendly’s. Wigan will lose to them in SL games. Surely the Warriors are overrated by yourself?

my only worry about friday is our 'fickle' so called loyal fans who are already deserting after just 1 game

Jesus wept! How can you call Wigan supporters after what we have been through over the last few years. IMO our support has stood up amazingly well and the club - and you - appear to take far too much for granted.

im just going off all the negativity this week

Yes i agree i mean it was clearly a 1 off, its not like we have had to put up with 2 years of this dross now is it?

richards to FB according to radio manchester