In what way?

Richards was Superleagues top try scorer last year, and he's only three behind Foster now despite playing seven games less.

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WOW

what games are u watching!!!!!!

That's why he won Man of Steel last season then having topped the try and goal charts?

A wind up surely? If not, this is a real contender for the most amusingly stupid post of 2011.

Richards' performances in 2010 set a new standard for SL wingers. It was a season of pure class from a very talented athlete. This is a man who as a younger player scored 20 tries in his last NRL season, but last year was at his physical and playing peak and delivered an absolute masterclass in wing play. At times last year (away at Hull for example) he was so good you almost felt sorry for the opposition.

I imagine Foster would be embarrassed by the comparison. He's a promising young player but that is just ridiculous.

With Foster being a Wigan fan he's probably made the rumour up himself.

Bit surprised by the level of negativity directed at Foster here. He's a good finisher and a good kicker, with an excellent mental attitude during the game - nothing seems to faze him. I'd be happy to see him at Wigan, although I'd be very surprised if he actually moved anywhere anytime soon.

Agreed but at present we have two better wingers, and Ryan King coming through the academy.
We don't need Foster, but I would have Lomax.

Saints fans do tend to watch Saints players more often and while obviously most of us will defend our players against the snearing of opposition fans, most of us will also have a better idea rationally about what our players offer than those same opposition fans. Foster won try of the month in March, I think it was, following the try he scored at Leeds. To do that at speed, with such precision, when under pressure in a first grade game takes a level head, good balance, skill and knowledge of what he can get away with in terms of where he places the ball. Foster is very secure with the ball, which is something all teams want of their wingers (in fact, players generally!). He is fast, reliable under the bomb, a great finisher, shows great positioning, has a good rugby brain and reads a game well ... why is this 'average' just because his stats don't compare to one of your wingers?

As I said, individual coaches ask different things of their players. Maguire might ask for greater involvement from his wingers than does Simmons. A lot of our play feeds off Roby, mainly because we have had to play a lot of young inexperienced lads this year so someone has to take the game forward, but that means our style of play is centrally driven in a way yours might not be. But I am interested to know how Charnley would differ in his skills to Foster? What has he got that Foster hasn't, given the abilities I've listed above?

I seem to remember Richards terrorising him at OT in the grand final until he went off injured.

Anyway no need for the dummy spitting, that why I put IMO, IMO he isnt what he's made out to be, he's a good goal kicker and a decent finisher, doesnt look amazing defensively and poses no threat from over 20 yards out from the line. IMO

Absoulutely no chanc eid swap him for Charnley, Charnley is far more dangerous from all areas of the pitch.

Modesty

Correct.

Yes he has.


Works hard in defence but due to his size can find it tough near the tryline.


Foster is one of our most hardworking players. He is all over the place. But if you're talking kick returns, he still needs strength. He isn't as big as Charnley. However, no-one could doubt Foster's willingness to come inside for work and he is not afraid to tackle.


Clearly not. It's just that you haven't watched Foster enough to know what you are talking about. Foster is all that you say Charnley is but with superb kicking skills on top.

If Charnley had Foster's kicking ability, who would be better?

Charnley has everything Foster has but he seems a little bit faster and has size and power, meaning he's a bigger threat in attack and can put in some big tackles in defence. Goalkicking is irrelevant in the comparison. For me, Charnley is the better player.

I thought Charnley was already a good kicker anyway? If he has a full pre-season like Pat did focusing on goal kicking, I'm sure he would be as good!

So how do you explain Charnleys stats being better than Fosters.
Charnleys percentage success kicking is also better than Fosters.

Charnley is the better player. It's just fans will always argue and back their own players.

I've already said about (a) Foster's build being relatively slight, and (b) the difference in how coaches use their players (wingers included).


That I doubt.

Not at all. If we were to compare hookers then I'd say Roby is the best hooker in Superleague but Moore is way down the list. Moore has turned into a pretty effective second rower, which is how Simmons is using him. Or would do, if he hadn't been dropped! I'm realistic about Saints players and aside from his size, which limits him in both attack (kick returns when tackled) and defence (goal line, due to lack of strength), I honestly believe that Foster is more than just an 'average winger' as people on here are suggesting. I don't believe he is international standard but he might turn out to be over time.

Oh, and his kicking isn't just limited to goals. He is doing some fantastic kick offs too.

I think that you're missing the point.

What the majority of are saying is that Wigan do not need Foster, as we have two better wingers in Richards and Charnley in the team now.

There aren't many who say that Foster is a poor player, I for one was championing him three years ago (although that was at centre).

No team with Pat Richards would want Foster for that position, its madness! If you really want to swap though ....