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| One of those games sadly. Happened under Madge and loads of times under Wane too. I've also seen us do the same to far better Leeds sides than this Wigan one (Thomas Coyle anyone)..
The question now is about the response, attitude and what Peet can learn. It isn't hyperbole to say that certain players shouldn't play for us again.
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| We've rocked up tonight expecting a walkover, and got battered for showing that kind of arrogance.
Bad day at the office, it's a reminder that we can take a beating if we don't take a game seriously. They've played it like a cup, final, we've played it like it's a formality.
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| That VR call is the most blatantly incorrect decision I can remember.
What on earth is going on with officiating this season, absolutely shambolic.
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| Quote ="Pie_Eyter"No matter who the coach is, Isa always gets a game. He isn't alone in being terrible tonight but him not being a centre just compounds it and completely unbalances the side.
Oh, and O'neil can't get a game all of a sudden. Part of the reason for the upturn in form was him and Smith and now he doesn't get a look in. Just back to the usual, Isa, Powell and Partington none of whom ever do anything. All plodders. We have a hooker with zip and movement and he get's frozen out for playing well. Peet doing his best to keep the failings of Lam going. No balls to drop the favourites despite talk of players playing on form. Utter tosh.'"
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| It's almost as though the rest of the Wigan team have bought into the French/Field can win games mentallity because some of the rest of the team have been woefu with no ideas at all.
I have defended Isa in the past but he never ever breaks a first tackle which for someone who was/is a second row playing centre is shockingly bad. Faz has gone off the boil since his new contract and I think we have missed Bateman's drive and energy.
Think Peet will have a lot of work to do in training because that was a truly awful performance - so many players looked well off tonight.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"That VR call is the most blatantly incorrect decision I can remember.
What on earth is going on with officiating this season, absolutely shambolic.'"
Yup and I'm glad a Saints fan has said it too. I backed McManus when he said what he did post CC final. These things are more important than a rivalry as it's killing the sport.
I'm sure you'll get sneered at tho, as RL and a high % of fans seems stuck in the dark ages and can't bring itself to realise or acknowledge the games got an officiating issue.
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| Quote ="ChrisA"We've rocked up tonight expecting a walkover, and got battered for showing that kind of arrogance.
Bad day at the office, it's a reminder that we can take a beating if we don't take a game seriously. They've played it like a cup, final, we've played it like it's a formality.'"
Yeah, I agree and once we have gone behind we haven’t stuck to the basics. I hope Peet kicks them up the and this is the slack performance at the right time, it’s pulled us back to Catalans and Hudds.
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| And another soft try
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| If that's a dangerous tackle then it's time to call it a day with this sport
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| I can’t convince people to give the game another go when a tackle like the one French just did on Myler is penalised. I’m close to being done with the game now.
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| Quote ="[Gareth"If that's a dangerous tackle then it's time to call it a day with this sport'"
Absolutely nonsensical - I genuinely think both the officiating and disciplinary need sweeping changes. They are completely broken.
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| Shocking from Wigan tonight. Leeds played well. The way the commentators are going on though it’s like Leeds are the second coming of Jesus.
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| Quote ="DannyT"I can’t convince people to give the game another go when a tackle like the one French just did on Myler is penalised. I’m close to being done with the game now.'"
How do you think St Helen’s feel every time their players make a tackle on a kicker that’s impossible to pull out of and end up getting a ban?
Something has to change
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| Sometimes you just have to give credit to the opposition. Completely out enthused.
It was one of those nights where everything went wrong for us from poor passes, indiscipline with and without the ball, some poor ref and VR decisions, we looked impatient and disorganised.
I don’t know if we were just overconfident or complacent but we weren’t at the races today. We’ll played Leeds.
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| Can we all pray for Jason65 tonight please. He must be devasted that the greatest SL team ever in his eyes lost to a lower table team
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| Quote ="TheWarringtonWolve69"Can we all pray for Jason65 tonight please. He must be devasted that the greatest SL team ever in his eyes lost to a lower table team'"
Mean as a Warrington fan you can’t say anything pal. Shut your din
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| Quote ="Trainman"Sometimes you just have to give credit to the opposition. Completely out enthused.
It was one of those nights where everything went wrong for us from poor passes, indiscipline with and without the ball, some poor ref and VR decisions, we looked impatient and disorganised.
I don’t know if we were just overconfident or complacent but we weren’t at the races today. We’ll played Leeds.'"
Through all the frustration of tonight and the doom and gloom I can see this being the kick up the we need to kick on again and I can see us finishing the season undefeated from now.
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| Fair play to Leeds, they where by far the better team and we didn't lose because of the ref but my god he was pathetic tonight
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| Quote ="WWste"Mean as a Warrington fan you can’t say anything pal. Shut your din
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He's definitely not a Wire fan!
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| Quote ="CobraCraig"Through all the frustration of tonight and the doom and gloom I can see this being the kick up the booty we need to kick on again and I can see us finishing the season undefeated from now.'"
Aye, I don’t think it’ll hurt in the long run. It was a shambles from start to end and right across the board. No finger pointing at individuals from me, it was collectively appalling and nobody can walk away pleased with their performance.
An easy one to draw a line under and move on from.
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| Quote ="CobraCraig"Our handling has been abysmal, frustrating as with any execution we would have won this game, our forwards are making 10-15 every carry nearly.'"
Leeds fan in peace.
Just on this it was a tactic Rohan Smith used in the Warrington game to not rush out in defence to keep the line in tact, it’s a risky tactic but its worked for is again.
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| First time under Peet that Wigan have been out enthused. Not the end of the world as long as we fix it quickly.
Most players didn't look in the right headspace from minute 1 - just so loose in everything we did. Passes off target, decision making poor, little defensive intensity.
Cust and Smith were awful, Isa all over the place and Cooper had a tough start. I thought some of the younger forwards showed up (Havard, Smithies, Byrne).
That video ref decision was infuriating - simply shows that the refs didn't know the rules. Not good enough at all - but it clearly had no impact on the result.
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| Quote ="WWste"Mean as a Warrington fan you can’t say anything pal. Shut your din
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| Quote ="christopher"Leeds fan in peace.
Just on this it was a tactic Rohan Smith used in the Warrington game to not rush out in defence to keep the line in tact, it’s a risky tactic but its worked for is again.'"
Potentially, as your on line defence was very good and we didn’t look too threatening near your line, going for the bend not break style of defence which is risky.
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| I have just watched, and admired, how your coach give his after match interview. He was excellent in his summation, it takes strength to show that dignity in defeat. Total respect for Matt Peet. I really hope you get one over on Saints at the Grand Final. With a man like him at the helm, you deserve to. A Leeds Fan in peace.
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