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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"Indeed. There is a bloke who sits in front of me who leaves with five minutes to go come what may. The scores can be level but he still gets up and off he goes. It cheers me up no end when we score in the last minute and he is getting held up trying to get out of the ground with all the like minded walkers! You've got to laugh.'"
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| Quote ="DaveO"I am pretty sure it was the 1991/2 season for us. The reason it sticks in my mind is Ian Lucas sold his antique shop to go full time then when on tour with GB at the end of the season had his career effectively ended by a tackle not unlike the one Olly suffered at Leeds.
Anyway I always thought it was a rather token gesture at the time as several clubs had virtually full time squads and Widnes had been throwing cash at players like confetti a few years earlier ant it was 1987 Leeds signed Gary Schofield from Hull so it was hardly us who were acting like we owned RL.
What set Wigan apart was the professionalism off field with the club doing things like employing sprint coaches and even back then we had a production line of home players.'"
It was after that.
Andy Farrell was an apprentice joiner when he won his first Challenge Cup Final. The BBC did a video of him at work prior to the final.
Leeds were the first team to go fully pro.
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"And?
Do I have a point or am I missing something? Because to my eyes the half backs are not working as a pair. Last night all the expectations on George got to him and he was poor. Last season Matthy organised and kicked and George did the rest. This year George has it all to do, and IMO he is struggling because it is unfair to expect one man to do everything.'"
Err, no, complete opposite in fact. Tommy's organisation and ability to take people on is giving George the freedom to play his more "off the cuff" game that he never had the luxury to do alongside Smith, who was pretty much ignored as a threat by opposition teams.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It was after that.
Andy Farrell was an apprentice joiner when he won his first Challenge Cup Final. The BBC did a video of him at work prior to the final.
Leeds were the first team to go fully pro.'"
My memory is something similar. I'm sure Leeds were the first team to go fully pro but quite a few teams were near enough there for a good few years before that. I've searched the internet for evidence to back that up but a yet unsuccessfuly.
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"Sorry to be pedantic but you were 8/13 favourites with most bookies last night though you could have got better odds earlier in the week when the bookies hadn't realised how many players Wigan were missing.
You will note that the bookies are still rating Wigan as favourites or joint favourites at 15/8 for the GF. Third favourites Hull are a long way back on 5/1. Leeds come next on 8/1. No value in backing Cas. Especially with over three quarters of the season to go. Your season is mirroring Shaun Wanes first year in charge 2012 when Wigan stormed to the LLS only to be beaten in the playoffs by Leeds who won the GF from fifth. Are you confident that Cas can maintain the early season form? You do seem overly reliant on Gale to me.'"
Mark my words mate, on Monday when William Hill released the odds, Wigan were 10/11 to beat Cas, then obviously people will have piled on Cas making the slight swing. Cas are 13/8 faves for the GF with William Hill. I totally agree there's no value backing Cas, but there was in January! As for am I confident ? More so then I was in 2014 when we lost the cup final and essentially lost the lls by failing to win our last game, we fell just short that year but have a better squad this time round , but we will see. I'm fully aware there's a long way to go and we need a bit of luck with injuries and need to avoid burning out early .
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| Cas 13/8 favs for the grand final??? I'll give anyone 10s, not a prayer
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| Quote ="Geoff"Err, no, complete opposite in fact. Tommy's organisation and ability to take people on is giving George the freedom to play his more "off the cuff" game that he never had the luxury to do alongside Smith, who was pretty much ignored as a threat by opposition teams.'"
Agree with this Geoff.
Greorge will become an even better player with Wee Tam alongside him for a couple of years .
Cant understand why some people are so critical of Wee Tam these days
Regards , EW
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| Quote ="Edinburgh Warrior"Agree with this Geoff.
Greorge will become an even better player with Wee Tam alongside him for a couple of years .
Cant understand why some people are so critical of Wee Tam these days
Regards , EW'"
Not like you to speak up for wee Tam!.... *Chuckles*
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| Quote ="Orrell Lad"Cas are just the latest West Yarksher flavour of the month, '"
Thurr Thurr,sore loser
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| Quote ="Bigboff"Thurr Thurr,sore loser'"
You've won nowt yet
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| Quote ="bazdev"Cas 13/8 favs for the grand final??? I'll give anyone 10s, not a prayer'"
BazI will have some of that please
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| You seem to be completely missing the point.
Who apart from the media and some bookmakers are saying "Castleford will win the grand final" ?
What you will find is that the Castleford fans are enjoying and reveling in watching a good quality side that are improving year on year.
Most of the fans are realistic Obviously we have a chance but there are plenty of other clubs who could as well.
It seems there are some very bitter Wigan fans making assumptions "They don't give out gold rings in April" WHO SAID THEY DID ?.
Most fans from other clubs seem to be happy that other teams are trying to better themselves and making the league more competitive but it seems like that doesn't apply to Wigan
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"BazI will have some of that please'"
Surely you'll only want the same odds the bookies are giving?
That's what you wanted to give last year?
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| Quote ="IanTigerman"You seem to be completely missing the point.
Who apart from the media and some bookmakers are saying "Castleford will win the grand final" ?
What you will find is that the Castleford fans are enjoying and reveling in watching a good quality side that are improving year on year.
Most of the fans are realistic Obviously we have a chance but there are plenty of other clubs who could as well.
It seems there are some very bitter Wigan fans making assumptions "They don't give out gold rings in April" WHO SAID THEY DID ?.
Most fans from other clubs seem to be happy that other teams are trying to better themselves and making the league more competitive but it seems like that doesn't apply to Wigan'"
I think EVERY Wigan fan is happy for Cas and having a different team up there challenging. Most have been very complimentary about your style of play in fact.
What gets on our tits is that every time one of the small West Yarksher clubs beat us, they spend the following week gassing on this WIGAN board calling us out... Wakefield were the same last year. We seem to be reserved special treatment that other clubs aren't, yet when we react we're called bitter!
Do us a favour, P off and come back with the same swagger in October...
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| And there you go again POINT PROVEN hahahahaha
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| Quote ="IanTigerman"And there you go again POINT PROVEN hahahahaha'"
What, that over half of all your posts on this site are on the Wigan board? You're right, my point is proven
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| Is he still here? Must have been banned from the Cas board.
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| Please show me where anyone from Castleford has "been calling out Wigan"
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| "EVERY WIGAN FAN IS HAPPY FOR CAS"
is the first part of your post THEN
"P off and come back In October with the swagger"
What swagger ?
I know there are a few villages around Wigan and it looks like one of them has lost it's idiot
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| Ok... Cas are $hite, we are wonderful and arrogant, everybody hates us, we don't care... Happy?
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| That's more like the Wigan we all know
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| Quote ="IanTigerman"That's more like the Wigan we all know'"
Happy to prove your preconceived idea right..
Come back in October...
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| As someone pointed out on one of the other threads, if Cas fans expect to come on the Wigan board to find praise for how wonderful their side is, they are going to be in for a long wait, and I'm sure it would be no different on the Whinos' board, say, or anywhere else. FWIW, my take is that Cas are playing good attacking footy at the moment, and as Orrell Lad says upthread, it's good to see another side challenging at the top of the table, like Hull last year. Whether you'll be there at the business end of the season, time will tell.
Looking forward to the return game at the Jungle.
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| The point is nobody from Castleford has asked or wanted praise from anyone on here.
I too look forward to the return fixture as it's always good to test yourself against the big teams,If we are not "The Winners" at the end of October so be it.
Castleford's season and club can be judged on a lot more than winning the Grand Final.
It wasn't long ago that we were 24 hours from adminastration and in a VERY bad place,everything that has happened over the last few seasons shows how far we have come and we are just enjoying it the best we can.
Believe me I've been watching for over 35 years and have seen LOTS of ups and downs (but mainly downs lol).
I for one appreciate what Wigan have brought to our league for years,they are without doubt the club who brought the standard up throughout the league as everyone had to try to get to their level.
Good luck for the season (but not against us)
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| Quote ="IanTigerman"The point is nobody from Castleford has asked or wanted praise from anyone on here.
I too look forward to the return fixture as it's always good to test yourself against the big teams,If we are not "The Winners" at the end of October so be it.
Castleford's season and club can be judged on a lot more than winning the Grand Final.
It wasn't long ago that we were 24 hours from adminastration and in a VERY bad place,everything that has happened over the last few seasons shows how far we have come and we are just enjoying it the best we can.
Believe me I've been watching for over 35 years and have seen LOTS of ups and downs (but mainly downs lol).
I for one appreciate what Wigan have brought to our league for years,they are without doubt the club who brought the standard up throughout the league as everyone had to try to get to their level.
Good luck for the season (but not against us)'"
Tigerman: That's a very sensible post. I'm sure you'll find all (well 90%) of the Wigan posters on here are also sensible if, given the chance, you come on here discussing RL in a grown up fashion, prepared to offer praise and criticism where it's due, but you must have mentioned the 'famous Wigan Walk' a few times. Sure, some fans leave, regardless of the score, before the eighty minutes is up, but they do at all grounds.
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