As he's pretty much agreed to join the Knights (Newcastle, not York before anyone wits), I'd suggest there's no mileage in it.

It's worth repeating - he did not have a reputation as a first grade coach. Being a highly recommended assistant coach is no reason for IL to cow tow to exit clauses in contracts. For some reason you want to put him on a pedestal he was not on.



Too many ifs and buts. There was clearly a three year plan in place. He even recruited as such and that job is now left unfinished. There is already speculation can Wane carry it on and if IL decides to look outside the club there is no reason to think the new coach will maintain the ethos we have seen. I think it far form unreasonable to be very disappointed in Maquires attitude to his contract and that he has put a spanner in the works of the way the club was moving forward. I am sure IL is not looking at a half full glass at this moment in time despite what kind of brave face he may put on any announcement. The way a bunch of inconsistent players was turned round under Madge was quite amazing and there has got to be a huge risk that they will revert to a Noble like level of play unless we are fortunate that Wane can make a seamless transition (if he gets the job). There would be no such concerns if Madge was decent enough to honour his contract in full. It ought to be business as usual this season but its anything but.

Hasn't his mrs got something to do with the 2012 olympics?

Pretty much agreed, what does that officailly mean? Cant see Bennett saying anything until he has signed on the dotted line. He may do that of course, but the rumours still bubble.

Why would there be ? What weird scenarios are there to dream up about it? Either we have a watertight contract and Madge can't leave or we don't and he can and he is.

What I don't get is this idea he would not want to be here. He signs a three year contract with Wigan and moves half way round the world on that basis. Now if that were me I'd be pretty settled with the idea that is what I was going to do for the next three years and would not think I had just been given some sort of life sentence.

Now suppose a job offer comes along but I agreed a three year contract that I could jot get out of. I would be a complete idiot if I even entertained looking at the job offer. It would be even more stupid to go into a sulk and not do my job properly. "Come back in 18 months if you are still interested...Iv'e got a contract to see out" would make a refreshing change. You make your choices and stick by them or you will forever be looking for the greener grass and will easily be unsettled. Well you do if you are the kind of person who honours their commitments and doesn't negotiate contracts that makes it look like you never wanted to be here in the first place. He's been here no time at all to be wanting away.

Dave .. Not often I can say this on here .. But i absolutely agree with all of your posts on this subject .. Great minds and all that !!

Are you for real?

Is that what the world of business entails then? Everything in black and white? No room for negotiation? No legal or contractual wrangles of any description? All disputes being thrashed out straight away without any hitches?

Surely you at least accept that when complex contracts are under discussion you don't have to dream up 'weird scenarios'?

Dave, you're cheer-leading this blame-game at the moment, and frankly it's a bit pathetic considering all we know is that Souths might have made our coach an offer to go there for 2012.

What? We spent that entire era bemoaning how inconsistent we were.

If we hadn't won the title last year, i wonder if Madge would still be jumping ship...

Maguire, joined on a two-year contract with an option for a third season.

I hope he doesn't go but if he does then lets get Nathan Brown signed up, i'm not sure wane is ready yet to take over the reins

If Maguire goes next season then its a no brainer give the job to Shaun Wane. No need to bring in another coach. Then give assistant to Radlinski. Promote from within rather than bring a new face. Done that way too often in the last 10-15 years for little success.

Radders doesn't want a managers job. He says as much in his book.

It has to be, and I think it will be going to Wane. An experienced number 2 wouldn't go wrong tho. Can't think of many off the top of my head but a quality number 2 is a must.

That's what I've been saying. Wane has been at the club long enough in several capacities having started at the Academy. If he isn't ready to be a Head Coach now then he never will be IMO. This way offers the least disruptive way of replacing Madge, and haviung won the Grand Final last year I'd say we'd be better off changing as little as possible

I've always dreamed since I was a 10 year old kid at the time Shaun Edwards left that he'd one day return to coach the side.

I get the impression there are many fans who would also love it to happen from the romantics standpoint. That combined with the fact that its clear to see through interviews in the media he's developed a reputation as one of the top coaches in RU.

I doubt Edwards would be willing to take an assistant's post under Wane and I can't see Wane being happy with continuing at the club if he's passed on for head coach for the 2nd time, especially given his experience as a number 2 now.

So its one or the other. Common sense points to Wane but I just have an inclination that Edwards would be fantastic as Wigan head coach. If you can't be inspired as a young Wiganer playing under Edwards then why bother?

As for Maguire, I wasn't happy that he seemed to be yet another who's gone back on his word and broken a commitment. But if is in fact a two year deal with an option then he's done nothing wrong whatsoever. It just begs the question why did Wigan and Lenagan inform the fans it was a straight 3 year contract?

Gutted but sadly think its true, and I would hasten to bet the players already know given their performance against Catalan at the weekend.

The biggest worry for me is I think this loss could put us well back, and instead of a wigan dynasty over the next few years I expected, unfortunately I can see a return to mid table mediocrity. The problem being that I think it will take a hell of a coach to eradicate the culture of compliancy we still sadly have. We saw it in the last 20 against saints this year and in the hull game at home, and last year at bratfud and at home to quins BEFORE we even had the uncertainty of madge leaving, and we've seen it even more since- My worry is with madge gone we will revert back to the team we were under noble, underperforming massively against the weaker teams and losing, only raising our game for the big games.

Add to that, wane seems a shoe in and while he is a cracking bloke, I doubt he is tactically astute enough to give us the edge that madge has. Unfortunately I cant see him doing any better than nobby did!

In my opinion our current playing roster means we will always be in the mix for the forseeable future, no matter who the coach is.

Were doomed.

FFS some Wigan fans need to get a grip with all this doom BS.

We've got a quality bunch of players many are already quality and have years left like Lockers, Tommy & Richards and others like Joel, Sam, Faz, Mossop & Charnley are ripping SL up despite being young guys.

With or without Madge the future is bright at Wigan.

I could see Shandy Farrell coming back before Sean Edwards to coach Wigan.

Why?

He's just got the Sarries head coaches job for next season.

Farrell has barely begun his RU coaching career. I seriously doubt he'd be allowed to walk into the top job at Wigan. Maybe as Wane's number two seeing as Rads has always distanced himself from it

Amen to that!

IF (and i mean IF) he goes and SW steps up, i can see no reason why we cant kick on. Its not as if he has not already got a good first team record as a stand in. Add to the fact that his record in the reserves is nothing short of phenomenal.

Even if Mr Wane does not take the top job, i am sure we will recruit the very best available. I have heard that Barrow have just got rid of a very highly rated coach?. perhaps this young gun will provide the tactical nuance required to take this great club of ours forward?

If Wane isn't ready or doesn't want it. Simply we should move heaven and earth for Nathan Brown.