With Richards back to not miss the conversions?

2 games and you have already decided hes crap?

Yes.

Feel free to come back at the end of the season and attempt to trip me up on this.

I somehow feel you won't be

Your time will come, i know you are desperate but wait your turn.

sorry but that is a ridiculous post. Amos was the best player in the league before his injury v wakefield last year. were you saying he was garbage then. yes he hasnt been the same player but look at sam in the same role. he is nullified bringing the ball back, dropped numerous high balls and isnt the best defending one on one mainly due to his stature. is sam a poor player ??????? no . at least with sam at 6 we have his threat and creativity at first or second receiver and amos wouldnt do any worse than sam at FB and maybe with a run in the team at that position he may get back to his previous form, but let me guess he would still be e even he was performing like that

Hang on a minute Ziggy theres kids reading this forum!

I'll bring my boots and turn out at 6 if Roberts is at full back.

I'd pay to watch that.

Roberts was indeed poor tonight and Leeds exploited his wing.

Sam has to come off Fullback, he is wasted back there. Get him to 6.

So i either go with the view of our coach Micheal Maguire(1 season 1 Championship) or you Dave Lister the coach of? ...............

(Feel free to fill in the gap)

I'd be more concerned with you at full back

Is it?

He has had about half a dozen decent games in all the time he has been here. He has had about 5x that amount where he has been below average.

You keep to your own definition, I will keep to mine.


The inclusion of Sam into the debate does nothing other than to cloud the issue.

We'll discuss further in October

You'd need me there to look after you if you played sunshine

The thing is i'm wondering how much game time has Sam had at 1 in his life? (Maybe Bilko et al could provide some info of how he went in U20s/U18s and if he had much time at 1?) because Super League is NOT the place to learn how to play at 1 imo

like you'll be there

Nah, it's early days and Finch is not 100%

Either that or Madge has seriously lost the plot with his team selection.

Give Matty Russell a go against Catalans IMO.

You'd have to ask Rogues or Bilko, but I can't imagine he played there in the academy.

Why play our most skillfull and creative player at full back where he can get bombed and battered, when you could play him at half back and give him the chance to run the game. Doesn't make sense to me! Anyone at full back bar Sam.

If we arent discussing it before October dont bother turning up because he will probably be playing in the Grand final.

Sam just isn't up to playing FB. Poor under the high ball and, his kick return is poor and i worry every time the opposition kick the ball to him, high or not. Yes he's good a support / broken play but I think the points mentioned earlier, along with last line of defence, should be priority for a FB.

Pat is our best full back, but he's more effective on the wing.

i think so, amos was poor in our first season with us, as was pat and as was riddell. amos was superb b4 the injury for 10 games approx i think it was playing at FB. he came back towards the end of last year low on confidence and has been in and out of the team since. a prolonged period at FB is what is needed imo. if amos had not got injured and carried on that form would you still have classed him a failure because of his first season with us ???? he has been unfortunate with the timing of his injury. if hes given the opportunity to regain his form and fails then fair enough but i think you are been very very harsh with a player that obviously has all the skill in the world and a player that has shown he can be a world beater !!!

Going forward it has to be

1. Pat
2. Goulding
3. Joel
4. Carmont
5. Charnley
6. Sam
7. Finch
9. Tommy

Micky Mac on the bench.

Roberts cannot justify selection and Sam is never a fullback, his defence/his high ball isnt good enough and teams are gang tackling him out of the game.

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