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I see Eastmond has now resigned for Saints on a two year deal.
www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 32,00.html
A two year deal is ok but if I were a Saints fan I'd have been hoping for a longer contract, such as the deal S Tomkins signed for us. I think this deal allows Kyle to increase his worth over the next few years and then really push for a big deal from either Rugby League or Union.
It's good that he'll stay in league but I think we can all see what his management have planned.
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I see Eastmond has now resigned for Saints on a two year deal.
www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 32,00.html
A two year deal is ok but if I were a Saints fan I'd have been hoping for a longer contract, such as the deal S Tomkins signed for us. I think this deal allows Kyle to increase his worth over the next few years and then really push for a big deal from either Rugby League or Union.
It's good that he'll stay in league but I think we can all see what his management have planned.
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Quote ="LovesToSpooge"I see Eastmond has now resigned for Saints on a two year deal.
www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 32,00.html
A two year deal is ok but if I were a Saints fan I'd have been hoping for a longer contract, such as the deal S Tomkins signed for us. I think this deal allows Kyle to increase his worth over the next few years and then really push for a big deal from either Rugby League or Union.
It's good that he'll stay in league but I think we can all see what his management have planned.'"
Exactly what i thought as well, 2 years is the perfect time for him to develop his game further and push his price up for Union. Its only an extra year on what he had in place. Would have felt more comfortable with a 3 year deal.
Good we as a sport have him though even if it is only for the short term. Hope someone even Saints can sign him up on a longer deal once this one is out.
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Quote ="LovesToSpooge"I see Eastmond has now resigned for Saints on a two year deal.
www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 32,00.html
A two year deal is ok but if I were a Saints fan I'd have been hoping for a longer contract, such as the deal S Tomkins signed for us. I think this deal allows Kyle to increase his worth over the next few years and then really push for a big deal from either Rugby League or Union.
It's good that he'll stay in league but I think we can all see what his management have planned.'"
Exactly what i thought as well, 2 years is the perfect time for him to develop his game further and push his price up for Union. Its only an extra year on what he had in place. Would have felt more comfortable with a 3 year deal.
Good we as a sport have him though even if it is only for the short term. Hope someone even Saints can sign him up on a longer deal once this one is out.
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| If the SKY quotes are right and he's signed up until the end of 2011 that's in effect a one year extension. He was already ooc 2010.
He'll no doubt be getting a fair size pay increase which is deserved but neither Saints nor he are committing themselves to a long term deal.
Why the uncertainty? Is it Saints who are unsure at what stage he'll be in two years or, where they will be then?
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| A 2 year deal is quite a worry from a Saints and English rugby league point of view. That contract screams to me he's thinking of a move somewhere down the line and has Martin Offiah's influence written all over it. He knows he won't make much money by letting his players sign up to long term deals with their original clubs.
This deal makes our 5 year deal we've got Sam Tomkins tied into look all the more impressive and is a huge weight off everybody's mind.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"A 2 year deal is quite a worry from a Saints and English rugby league point of view. That contract screams to me he's thinking of a move somewhere down the line and has Martin Offiah's influence written all over it. He knows he won't make much money by letting his players sign up to long term deals with their original clubs.
This deal makes our 5 year deal we've got Sam Tomkins tied into look all the more impressive and is a huge weight off everybody's mind.'"
Well, Offiah's Twitter update is:
Quote martinoffiah: Kyle Eastmond signed for saints today aaarrr I can relax a little but not to much it's only a 2yr '"
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| Quote ="ABP'"Well, Offiah's Twitter update is:'"
He'll relax for 6 months and then start circulating the stories about him moving to Union again.
I don't see any of Offiah's clients ever being a one club man thats for sure.
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| I hope I'm wrong but a mere 2 yr deal will only result in his eventual defection to RU being even bigger news, assuming he progresses as he should. It's a shame he isn't on a 4 or 5 yr deal. Could the fact that he's not a local lad have a bearing?
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| Maybe Saints didn't offer enough to make him want to sign for longer / Offiah wanted to much for a longer deal?
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"He'll relax for 6 months and then start circulating the stories about him moving to Union again.
I don't see any of Offiah's clients ever being a one club man thats for sure.'"
Exactly, we can all see what's going to happen it's just a matter of time.
I'm with you Nicky it won't be long until rumors start surfacing once again about Eastmond's future. All Kyle needs now are two years of scintillating form and he'll then be able to name his price, whether that's in League or Union will probably come straight down to who'll offer the most.
Are we all glad about S Tomkins contract situation or what.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"
Are we all glad about S Tomkins contract situation or what.'"
It's a real weight off the mind for everyone in the short term. I suppose when it comes down to it though a contract means little if Union come calling with the cash. No club could afford to turn down huge money for a player but we needn't worry at the moment.
Saints on the other hand.............
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I believe he had a bit of a fall out with Shaun Wane (not advisable) and finished up at Leigh.'"
All sorts of rumours went around the place. One I heard was that Stanton was promised X amount of games and never got it, went in a huff & ended up at Leigh.
Didn't Shaun Wane drop him from the final?
Takes no s--t Wane.
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| Quote ="cadoo"Takes no s--t Wane.'"
I bet he doesn't.
I certainly wouldn't mess with him and I bet non of the players ever say a word out of turn to him either.
I know that Wane said on the radio that he hoped to get involved with training on physical level, anybody know whether he does?
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"I bet he doesn't.
I certainly wouldn't mess with him and I bet non of the players ever say a word out of turn to him either.
I know that Wane said on the radio that he hoped to get involved with training on physical level, anybody know whether he does?'"
I've heard him say he has been having the Reserves smash into each in training - to the extent some have had busted noses etc.
Darren Fletcher for U18's coach is gathering a bit of momentum now. Anyone know much about his background?
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| Re the Eastmond deal, I think it works well for both parties to be honest. From Saints point of view, and virtually all our fans would agree, despite the massive potential he is still a bit unproven as a week in week out scrum half. He has probably only played in that position half a dozen or so times.
It gives us 2 years to monitor his development, if he doesn't come on as much as hoped then we aren't tied in to a massive contract for 5 years or so. On the other hand, if he shows he can do it, then we will have to lay down big bucks in 2 years time, but we do have a very good record at retaining good players
Like the earlier poster said though about Tomkins, it only takes a big offer to come in and perhaps the lad would be knocking on the door for more money, as loyal a Wigan player as I'm sure he is, it's a short career and a contract signed as a teenager wouldn't surely match up to one that could be offered to a world class player in his early to mid twenties
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| Quote ="Saint-Gary"Re the Eastmond deal, I think it works well for both parties to be honest. From Saints point of view, and virtually all our fans would agree, despite the massive potential he is still a bit unproven as a week in week out scrum half. He has probably only played in that position half a dozen or so times.
It gives us 2 years to monitor his development, if he doesn't come on as much as hoped then we aren't tied in to a massive contract for 5 years or so. On the other hand, if he shows he can do it, then we will have to lay down big bucks in 2 years time, but we do have a very good record at retaining good players'"
But it doesn't.
It only gives you one year. His contract runs out in 2011 when he will become free agent.
So if Saints want to keep him or get a fee for him they will have to renegotiate his contract again next year.
Offiah and Eastmond are holding all the aces.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"But it doesn't.
It only gives you one year. His contract runs out in 2011 when he will become free agent.
So if Saints want to keep him or get a fee for him they will have to renegotiate his contract again next year.
Offiah and Eastmond are holding all the aces.'"
Suppose it depends how much he can prove in one year if you turn it on it's head. Come renegotiation time, he might still be classed as 'potential', and therefore have less bargaining power . If he has 'proved it', we can start talking about a contract worthy of a top class scrum half. Sounds great to me. At least he's not in a Sale shirt To me Saints and Offiah are just treading carefully with 2 years, Offiah not wanting to sell him short for the long term and Saints not wanting to over commit to early for a player who, despite fantastic raw ability, has played very few games at SH and has not yet showed he can direct a team around the field
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www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 79,00.html
Looks like all of us were pretty much spot on. Eastmond will play for Saints for the next couple of years while he increases his value, so that he can then demand an even bigger contract from either League or Union.
Nice little plan of action there from Offiah, thank god he isn't S Tomkins's manager.
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www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 79,00.html
Looks like all of us were pretty much spot on. Eastmond will play for Saints for the next couple of years while he increases his value, so that he can then demand an even bigger contract from either League or Union.
Nice little plan of action there from Offiah, thank god he isn't S Tomkins's manager.
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| The more and more I read Offiahs comments/opinions in the paper/SSN, the more I can't stand him.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"The more and more I read Offiahs comments/opinions in the paper/SSN, the more I can't stand him.'"
Get him towd at the club shop tomorrow.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Get him towd at the club shop tomorrow.'"
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"The more and more I read Offiahs comments/opinions in the paper/SSN, the more I can't stand him.'"
I said to my dad last night that for a Wigan legend i don't half think he's a complete tos*er!
He doesn't give a sh*t about these youngsters careers aslong as he lines his own pockets.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I said to my dad last night that for a Wigan legend i don't half think he's a complete tos*er!
He doesn't give a sh*t about these youngs careers aslong as he lines his own pockets.'"
I have 2 disagree with this one sorry. I know as RL fans we don't like what is happening with Eastmond but from an agents pov he's been good for his clients.
Myler 2 wire=good for Myler
Eastmond extension= good for Eastmond due to the reasons above.
We may not like it but he is opening doors for his clients
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"I have 2 disagree with this one sorry. I know as RL fans we don't like what is happening with Eastmond but from an agents pov he's been good for his clients.
Myler 2 wire=good for Myler
Eastmond extension= good for Eastmond due to the reasons above.
We may not like it but he is opening doors for his clients'" Correct. He's doing the best he can for his clients. If he can get eastmond a 5 year deal in union for £125k a year then he's done very well for eastmond. Just as Clarke did for Ashton.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"I have 2 disagree with this one sorry. I know as RL fans we don't like what is happening with Eastmond but from an agents pov he's been good for his clients.
Myler 2 wire=good for Myler
Eastmond extension= good for Eastmond due to the reasons above.
We may not like it but he is opening doors for his clients'"
Is a move to Wire a wise move for Mylers career at this point? with all the pressure that comes with that I doubt it is especially as Salford offered him their biggest ever contract to stay and develope in a less pressurised enviroment.
He could have stayed there but Offiah wouldn't have got a cut of the transfer fee then. IMO none of Offiah's clients will ever stay with a club for more then 2 or 3 years because that just won't make him enough money.
I said the other day when Eastmond signed his new contract that Offiah would give it 6 months and then start touting a move to Union again......................I got that wrong! He's already started the ball rolling by talking to the press about how he's been in talks with Jason Robinson about a move for him in the future. He'll be made up if that goes through and not because he'll have made Eastmond a pile of cash but more because he'll again get a cut of any transfer fee that Union will have to pay.
He's looking after himself plain and simple just as all the agents in football do. These agents aren't in the game to look after young players welfare..............they're in it to make a quick buck!
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| Offiah is touting him towards Union when he's 25. Until then he'll be with Saints. It is up to Saints to keep him in RL as at present the only person talking about Union is Offiah.
Perhaps a change of agent rather than a change of code would be more appropriate.
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