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| Quote ="Deano G"The usual advice to people in a hole is to stop digging, but you keep at it, it's hilarious!'"
OK you're right, Ryan Hall is right up there in contention for international winger of the year 
Paul Wellens is definitely going to run Billy Slater close too.
As for Danny Houghton - watch out Cam Smith.
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Its actually pretty simple..
wigan fans wouldnt swap richards for any winger in the world..the rest of super would have richards before any of there current wingers in a heartbeat.
World class player
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"I said Vatuvei, Uate, Gordon and Morris were all better than Richards. They're all on the list.
The fact that Chris Riley and Ryan Hall are nominated for International winger of the year tells you all you need to know about the presence of token SL players to bolster the numbers.
I mean seriously, Pat Richards the best winger in the world. He is a very consistent player, but best winger in the entire world? Give me a break.'"
I was just looking at 'Player of the year' Not the rest, which is a load of bollox. I mean, Richard Agar is nominated for coach of the year ffs! |
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| Quote ="RICHARD5LEGEND"I was just looking at 'Player of the year' Not the rest, which is a load of bollox. I mean, Richard Agar is nominated for coach of the year ffs!'"
Graham wasn't even the best player at Saints or Morley at Warrington - Roby and Westwood won player of the year.
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Richards was the best winger in the world last year, he should win the award easily.
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"Its actually pretty simple..
wigan fans wouldnt swap richards for any winger in the world..the rest of super would have richards before any of there current wingers in a heartbeat.
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You're assuming that SL is on the same level as the NRL. Haven't you seen any of the 4 Nations? |
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| Quote ="Catalancs"You're assuming that SL is on the same level as the NRL. Haven't you seen any of the 4 Nations?'" Tbf i'm with him on that one the club games are not that far off
Imo i think we could beat any club team in the world at this moment in time |
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| Quote ="RICHARD5LEGEND"And [i[uNONE[/u[/i of the players he mentioned were better than Pat have even been nominated
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they pretty much all got nominated for best winger or player in their other positions but they are still quality rep wingers.
its amazing how when sinfield got his golden boot nomination last year it was regarded as a joke. now it fits your view its to be taken notice of! hypocrisy? |
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"they pretty much all got nominated for best winger or player in their other positions but they are still quality rep wingers.
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And Richards is also still a quality winger, I dont see what your problem with this is.
Quote its amazing how when sinfield got his golden boot nomination last year it was regarded as a joke. now it fits your view its to be taken notice of! hypocrisy?'"
I had no idea Sinfield got nominated for golden boot last year and if he did I dont think its a joke. So No, not hypocrisy at all. |
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| Quote ="Catalancs"You're assuming that SL is on the same level as the NRL. Haven't you seen any of the 4 Nations?'"
So your saying Richards wouldn't be a top NRL player ? |
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"So your saying Richards wouldn't be a top NRL player ?'"
The lad scored a try in a Grand Final win and in my opinion has improved as a player since then so no, I'm not saying he wouldn't be a top NRL player. |
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| Quote ="Catalancs"The lad scored a try in a Grand Final win and in my opinion has improved as a player since then so no, I'm not saying he wouldn't be a top NRL player.'"
He also scores 25 other tries in that season..
He scored 40 tries in 79 NRL games..pretty impressive for a guy even getter now.
theres no winger in SL or the NRL i would swap him for |
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| Quote ="RICHARD5LEGEND"And Richards is also still a quality winger, I dont see what your problem with this is.
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nowhere have i said richards isnt a quality winger. richards is a good winger who had an awesome season. i have said he is defo one of the top wingers in the game. stardust was saying richards is head and shoulders the best winger in the world no questions asked. i have a problem with that. there are too many genuine world class wingers or players who play on the wing with amazing atributes ripping it up at club, rep and internationl level to say richards is clearly the best winger.
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"So your saying Richards wouldn't be a top NRL player ?'"
No, what I'm saying is that because a player is a stand out in SL doesn't automatically make him world class. |
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Sam short-listed for International Player of the Year
[url=http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12196_6482122,00.htmlHere[/url
and well deserved imo
also on the short-list Paaaat and James Graham along with Adrian Morley
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| Quote ="chatham warrior"Sam short-listed for International Player of the Year
[url=http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12196_6482122,00.htmlHere[/url
and well deserved imo
also on the short-list Paaaat and James Graham'"
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| Quote ="Catalancs"No, what I'm saying is that because a player is a stand out in SL doesn't automatically make him world class.'"
I never said it did.
But its clear to everyone Richards is a world class winger even if he is playing the lesser league.
so were farrell, cunningham, sculthorpe..never played a single minute in the NRL but were world class. |
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| And the international winger of the year is...
[urlhttp://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/10/11/03/RUGBYL_Awards_Tomkins.html[/url
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| Quote ="Geoff"And the international winger of the year is...
[urlhttp://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/10/11/03/RUGBYL_Awards_Tomkins.html[/url
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Well done Pat! I hope his awards shelf is big enough! |
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That hole you're in is looking pretty deep this morning, FTV. Are you going to keep digging?
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| Quote ="Deano G"That hole you're in is looking pretty deep this morning, FTV. Are you going to keep digging?'"
If you'd really like to rely on that farcical list as a key part of your argument, feel free.
But OK I'll concede - Richards is the bestest winger in the world, which is why in 5 years in the NRL he never even sniffed rep honours (not even City/County I don't think) and he would definitely rather play for Ireland than Australia. No other winger comes close in terms of being tall and a half decent goal kicker.
Just like Ryan Hall was the best young player in the world in 2009 and Shane Hayne the best ref
I see from the 2010 winners that Darius Boyd is a better full back than Billy Slater and Tony Archer is the best ref in the world |
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"You may get close with Folau and Tuquiri before he went to Union, but pat's whole game would ensure none of the wingers you have mentioned would replace him.
Vatuvei-Big unit with good impact, poor mans volcano, nowhere near the skill set Pat has!
Tuquiri-Class act in his prime yes, best years behind him, not as good!
Hayne-Better at full back but Billy the kid is better than him so gets shoved on the wing and looks a shadow of the player he is when he's there! Not as good!
Folau-Great player, can kick and has a superb reading of the game..it would be a close call if he was still a Rugby League player!
Tuiaki-Had a great season in 2009, sadly a bad injury has plagued his career since and has stopped him reaching the heights Pat has! Not as good!
Wolfman Williams-Give over, he's a decent back but is nowhere near pat's skill set! Not as good!
Brett Morris-Quick and strong, not great under the high ball and once again nowhere near Pat's skill set! Not as good!
HTH'"
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"Good call eh? Wilko..
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