Pointless thread, Saints are going to win the grand final

That actually might not be a bad shout.

Can I please ask just exactly how DOES one "brandish people scum"?

Do you scoop it up and wave it at others or is another technique employed?

It was certainly the worst Wigan have played this season and possibly the best performance from wire.

Can't say I'm concerned, we looked jaded and seemingly had no luck all game, so many unforced errors; at when we next meet, which in all probability will be the grand final I'd be more than confident of turning them over.

It was nowhere near our best performance. We were lazy with ball in hand and made dumb decisions.

just like we outclassed wire and saints last superleague rounds see you in play offs

When did you last outclass Wire in the superleague?

It's 1 game. I said to my son before the game that we could get a pasting. Wire will be well up for it, and whilst any team will be up for a game like that, it's physically and mentally hard to back up like that 2 weeks on the trot. The early tries really smashed us and it's hard to come back from it.

Wire played some good stuff and defended really well, but it's not a true reflection of where both teams are at.

Congrats and all that, but it's only 1 game, a win or a loss for either team doesn't make or break their season at all.

Looked like it was to me.

Correct on all counts. Plus a 13 game undefeated streak had to end sometime so losing at HJ wasn't a surprise. If we are lucky we'll meet again and this time the repercussions of losing WILL matter.

Another thread was started by a Wiganer accusing Warrington of being a 'small club' because Tony Smith made a comment (in advance) about yesterday's game not being all that important.

I thought we played ok.... it certainly wasn't our best display of the season.. not by along way.

Don't get me wrong, I think the hub cap is a very important piece of silverware. However, I had personally resigned myself to the fact that we were up against it in terms of defending the title, especially after Wembley. Just look at the table - we have blown everyone away except Warrington and leaving ourselves with that fixture as a "must win" was a bridge too far.

Still, it's all about fighting the battles that you can win. It won't be easy (it might not even happen) but I feel we have a better chance of beating you in any upcoming play off game than we ever had on Sunday.

Couldn't agree with this statement anymore.

Totally agree and I was surprised to hear the Radio Manchester team after the game talk about the amazing quality of Wires play. It was short of your best IMO but then Wigan weren't only short of their best they actually put in their worst performance in Maguires 2 years at the club.

It was a very scrappy game won comfortably by the side that wanted it a whole heap more.

So you used to agree with it in the past and you no longer do so?

Yes we will.

Catalans away we played better, even at Dave's football stadium this season we scored less but played better, Leeds away, Cas at home, Bulls away all those top of my head we played better than Sunday

i thought defensively Wire were superb and carvell had a cracking game. but i have to agree with the wire fans that it wasnt their best performance of the season from what i have seen of them. if you look at the tries that were scored more often than not they were gifted field position due to our appalling handling skills and inablity to complete sets from within our own third. im confident we can still win super league and i hope it is against wire at OT.

We lost it in the pack, pure and simple. We let their forward be tackled on their own terms, to allow a quick play the ball. Whenever we ran the ball in, it was one man rugby at an angle with no aggression. It actually looked like we were playing in concrete boots.

Wigan need to get their heads together, get Wane on the forwards back all week and tear Crusaders an absolute new one.

Smith said before the game we need to take early chances and we did just that.

Think we did a number on Wigan

Was a risk by Smith given how light we was, be interesting to see how we go for it against Hull who are blowing teams away right now.

We'll be in it, but dont think our opponents will be Warrington!

Looking at it i do think you have a tougher game this weekend but i do think you will finish top. Though as we found out last season finishing top means sod all if you dont win your first play off game.

In terms of the play off, of course you are correct. However, IMO finishing top proves you have been the best team in the league. If Warrington beat Hull I will be acknowledging them as such through gritted teeth whilst hoping the pressure that accompanies the achievement brings them down.

OFC if Wire finishes top makes them the best side this season. But its no gurantee of winning the GF especially if you lose the first play off game.