I agree I do think Roberts has been good value of late and worth his spot.

Personally I have found from the reserves that you take it all with a pinch of salt. It is a poor poor level of rugby and if they can stand out at that level it has no bearing on whether they will make it at Wigan or even SL level.

Obviously you get one or two like S Tomkins where it is obvious they are going to make it but I think overall it gives very little indication on how good the players are/can be.

I agree, but what I'm saying is that I've never seen a player who is poor at reserve level look to be good first team player.

That is the reason why I asked Lenagan about setting up a "scholarship" in Australia for our better youngsters. Let them get tested out there os loaned out to other SL / Div 1 clubs.

Having watched the game again this afternoon, Pryce went well, he didn't do anything wrong and looked to me like a player with more game time under his belt who could do very well for us.

Certainly would like to see us persist with him instead of bringing Goulding back.

Looked for work, celebrated with team and looked to be fully focused on the job in hand.

Get rid of Pryce and bring Goulding back. Goulding is twice the player Pryce will ever be IMHO.

If he was fitter then I would agree.

Just can't agree, Pryce's size makes him a huge asset if he can get a run of games and show some form. A weapon out wide that is difficult to stop when close to the line.

Goulding will be nothing more than another Aspinwall or Hodgson, a decent SL player and squad filler. Seems to have a good step and turn of pace, but too often makes the wrong decision with ball in hand and is lightweight in defence.

Pryce also has experience at the highest level even playing out of position in the 2005 WCC.

Pryce is lazy and looks un-interested. He has the size and power to be a world beater but his attitude is wrong.

Goulding does his best all the time, eager to get the ball and looking to stay alive to the play. He isn't the biggest but so what? His sheer heart and determination should see him through.

I'd be extremely disappointed if we kept Pryce and let go of Goulding.

So because you think Pryce looks uninterested he is? Thats big of you?

When was he lazy on Friday?

So Goulding tries hard, so did Tim Jonkers and Jordan James, should they still be at wigan? No, because they aren't good enough, the same can be applied to Goulding.

Goulding is good enough. Pryce isn't. Simple as that.

Pryce is lazy. Goulding isn't.

Tim Jonkers and Jordan James are nowhere near the player that Goulding is. TBH I'd put Pryce in the same category as them.

Garbage.

Pryce is a waste of money and a waste of time. Get rid.

Just to answer this question.

Everytime he got the ball, he jogged in made no attempt to try and break the tackle, the only ounce of power I saw was when he went over for a try! His defence was woeful.

Get rid.

Darrell?

Yes.

I dont think either of them are good enough TBH.

Both have 'potential' to be good enough but they just arent cutting the mustard for me at the moment.

Phelps, Roberts, Gleeson, Carmont, Richards, Ainscough, Bailey, Sam are all better players who can slot in the positions that these two cover easily so for me its a no go for either of them. If they were Australian everyone would want rid. Simple as.

Seriously though - don't question Goulding's effort and determination, but from his appearances in the Wigan first team I've seen nothing to suggest that he is talented enough to be anything more than decent squad player.

Pryce on the other hand has far greater upside given his size alone.

He did break a tackle he was knocking people over.

Must've watched a different game to me - Pryce clearly needs match sharpness at first team level and can put more effort into his drives with the ball, but still took three players to stop him and put a couple of brutal one on one tackles in.

Even his two errors were due to miscommunication with Roberts - partnerships / understandings aren't formed in a single game.

He needs time and games before he is ultimately judged.

So just purely on his size you'd keep him? On that basis we'll keep Riddell?

Get rid. He is no use to us and players like Pryce is why we are where we are. Ship him to Salford/Celtic.

I've watched him several times at Academy games, he is not good enough.

If he had an Australian accent his head would of been demanded on a plate a long time ago.

Riddell's not going anywhere because of his contract, so thats a non-starter of an argument.

As for Pryce, you don't think his size is an asset? It's almost unique to find a player of his physique, strength and pace who can play in the outside backs and if he can get match sharpness in the first team then he is a weapon that most teams cannot match up against out wide. His performance on Friday was encouraging, there is room for improvement, but his initial lazy attitude demonstrated on earlier appearances wasn't as apparent and I believe he has the potential to be a very good player for Wigan if given time.

They are both young with potential. Keep them both. Gleeson and Carmont will not last forever and clock up plenty of injuries between them, Pryce and Goulding should eventually take over. Then Thornley can pressure them for the first team spot.

Congratulations on watching reserve / academy games, so do I - doesn't make either of our opinions more valid considering the difference to first team.

If he was Australian you may be right - but thats because expectations are far greater for the limited quota spots and the wages that are often associated. Pryce is a reclamation project at best, a gamble the club seem willing to perservere with and one that I believe will pay dividends in the long term for Wigan.

as well as whenever he took a drive in sucked in 2 or 3 defenders to take him down, as well as knocking a couple off in the process. For me he did more in that game than Goulding, whom i really just do not rate.

Well done on beating Saints on Friday Darryl.

Seriously I wonder what Wigan fans dislike about Pryce to have such an issue with him, I can only assume its because he is a player Noble brought from Bradford who he dares deem to be better than a "wiganer". god forbid.