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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Again I'd say there's not a great deal in the Walmsley incident. Robinson is tiny and Walmsley is a beast. He's got him slightly late (just like Micky Mac) but these things happen. The way the sky team went on you'd think he'd tried to kill him.
The game is getting watered down too much for me at the minute. The slow motion replays aren't helping. Play McIlorum and Walmsleys at full speed and neither would look particularly bad.'"
There was more in the Walmsey incident as there was direct contact with the head. It wasn't that bad but he will get at least 2. What it does is put the MM incident in context. I look forward to the Giraffe's comments on this 'cowardly' attack
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Again I'd say there's not a great deal in the Walmsley incident. Robinson is tiny and Walmsley is a beast. He's got him slightly late (just like Micky Mac) but these things happen. The way the sky team went on you'd think he'd tried to kill him.
The game is getting watered down too much for me at the minute. The slow motion replays aren't helping. Play McIlorum and Walmsleys at full speed and neither would look particularly bad.'"
A similar thing happened a few years ago when Lockers flattened Robinson with a front on challenge, he wrapped him with both arms and let his superior weight do the rest, a lot of people in Yorkshire have brought it up since and slated Lockers for that tackle.
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| Rugby is a tough sport and that is half the reason people watch it.
MM is a great player a tough player and a total pantomime villain.
MM is the new Terry Newton, being a Wigan fan in Wakefield I was constantly told what a grub he was and a scum bag etc......until he signed for Triniry when he became the best thing since sliced bread.
We pay the money to be entertained. MM is a very good player and also an entertainer. You don't like the physical stuff go watch football.
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| It could certainly do Micky Mac a favour. I still think the Walmsley incident wasn't all that bad but it was worse then Micky Macs.
A game for both IMO. Micky Mac on reputation and Walmsley on the incident alone.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"It could certainly do Micky Mac a favour. I still think the Walmsley incident wasn't all that bad but it was worse then Micky Macs.
A game for both IMO. Micky Mac on reputation and Walmsley on the incident alone.'"
IIRC Moon got 3 reduced to 2 on EGP. I'd expect Walmsey to get the same. I'd be suprised if MM got any more than a warning letter. It was no different to the Tomkins one, the Clubb one, at least 3 from the Hudds v St Helens game tonight and a host of others this season. I wouldn't be surprised if he got a grade A charge for the cannonball tackle though.
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"IIRC Moon got 3 reduced to 2 on EGP. I'd expect Walmsey to get the same. I'd be suprised if MM got any more than a warning letter. It was no different to the Tomkins one, the Clubb one, at least 3 from the Hudds v St Helens game tonight and a host of others this season. I wouldn't be surprised if he got a grade A charge for the cannonball tackle though.'"
It's Micky Mac though so I wouldn't bank on it.
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| Don't doubt for one minute that he will only get a warning letter.
Wigan players have been getting the rub of the green all season.
Even with your rose tinted glasses on you must admit you have got your fair share of luck this year.
Used to be Leeds who had Redhall in their pockets. Think you have taken over that role now.
Was looking forward to a Wigan Leeds GF but don't think we have much chance this year.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I still think the Walmsley incident wasn't all that bad '"
What?! It was a shocking attack to the head of a player half his size and looking the opposite way.
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"I agree that the red card is OTT for that kind of incident but to suggest both players being sin binned is the correct way to deal with it is wrong. How can a player getting the same punishment as the aggressor be the right call? It's either a Red for Wood and yellow for pettybourne or yellow for Wood and a chat with pettybourne.
I said earlier in the thread that I don't think there was much in the late challenge and the cannonball tackle was what the disciplinary should be interested in.'"
No, disagree, remember Elima and McIllorum, don't retaliate, not saying Pettybourne is in the wrong but he's not in the right by reacting.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"No, disagree, remember Elima and McIllorum, don't retaliate, not saying Pettybourne is in the wrong but he's not in the right by reacting.'"
What's he supposed to do just run off in the other direction?
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"What's he supposed to do just run off in the other direction?'"
It's the reason I brought up the Elima incident, back off, hold your hands up, look at the ref, job done.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"It's the reason I brought up the Elima incident, back off, hold your hands up, look at the ref, job done.'"
If Pettybourne had used his nouse and gone down like a sack of $hite then there would have been a red card shown, no doubt about it.
Cracking bobbing and weaving though!
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"Quote ="Wigg'n"What's he supposed to do just run off in the other direction?'"
It's the reason I brought up the Elima incident, back off, hold your hands up, look at the ref, job done.'" Ablett got Wardle sent off by winding him up then not retaliating while Wardle smacked him 4 or 5 times in the head.
I'd sooner the refs used common sense and saw there's a time when you're justified in throwing punches.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"What?! It was a shocking attack to the head of a player half his size and looking the opposite way.'"
I saw a big bloke try to tackle a really small bloke but sadly got there a touch late and that difference in size took over. He was clumsy for sure but Sky blew it all out if proportion for IMO.
Like I said earlier I think the game is being watered down too much at the minute. An incident like this would have hardly been given a mention 10 or even 5 years back.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"No, disagree, remember Elima and McIllorum, don't retaliate, not saying Pettybourne is in the wrong but he's not in the right by reacting.'"
I never said Pettybourne was in the right. I said that to give them both the same punishment was wrong.
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| Quote ="tank123"No but MM might get 1 game for it.
If Hardaker has said anything he is going to miss the rest of the season. So the moral is knock him the heck out but do not call him names it will cost you a lot more. Todays society ehh you can half kill a man and get a game ban if that but call people names and its season ending.'"
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| Quote ="Pie minister"Make like the League leaders shield and get back in your box !'"
Don't be bringing that up. They'll be writing to RLFANS complaining they're being embarrassed and made to look silly.
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| amazed nobody(including Sky) noticed Pettybourne throw elbow to Woods head when on the floor.
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"Ooooh. I'm now waiting for the hypocrisy to come from over the hill after the late shoulder charge to the head.'"
Really? I and everyone I was with last night agreed was straight red card and IMO deserves two match ban.
One thing I will say. Big Alex isn't a dirty thuggish type of a player and plays the game hard and fair. It wasn't intentional unlike other cowardly thuggish behaviour I've seen
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| Quote ="Anozira"amazed nobody(including Sky) noticed Pettybourne throw elbow to Woods head when on the floor.'"
What is amazing is you seeing something that didn't happen.
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| Quote ="St pete"Really? I and everyone I was with last night agreed was straight red card and IMO deserves two match ban.
One thing I will say. Big Alex isn't a dirty thuggish type of a player and plays the game hard and fair. It wasn't intentional unlike other cowardly thuggish behaviour I've seen'"
Utter rubbish , it was a cynical attempt to take out huddersfields only play maker.
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| Quote ="hatty"Utter rubbish , it was a cynical attempt to take out huddersfields only play maker.'"
Utter rubbish, we are the softest team in super league and are a team that has no instruction to take key players out unlike other teams .....
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| Quote ="St pete"Really? I and everyone I was with last night agreed was straight red card and IMO deserves two match ban.
One thing I will say. Big Alex isn't a dirty thuggish type of a player and plays the game hard and fair. It wasn't intentional unlike other cowardly thuggish behaviour I've seen'"
It amazing isn't it. That when an opposition player commits foul play it's "cowardly thuggish behaviour"' when it's one of your own it's "(insert name here) isn't that type of player". No yes, really, the hypocrisy from over the hill. I suppose it's human nature to want to defend your own, there's plenty on here do it with Wigan players.
Walmsey knew exactly what he was doing. I've seen it done many times by pretty much every club including Wigan. The idea is to try and make sure your fully committed, if you succeed they you'll get away with it and rattle a half back. He knew full well that Robinson was going to pass the ball. He hit him late, not ridiculously late, but definitely late. There was also direct contact with the head which is what got him sent off.
My comment was directed at the St Helens supporters posting on this thread prior to the Walmsey incident who have gone missing since.
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| Quote ="St pete"Utter rubbish, we are the softest team in super league and are a team that has no instruction to take key players out unlike other teams .....'"
Have you suddenly become Nathan brown? Ironic really when a couple years ago brown said if referees don't protect the little guys then he will ask the forwards to do it" oh how times change
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| Quote ="hatty"Utter rubbish , it was a cynical attempt to take out huddersfields only play maker.'"
Nah, he,s a clumsy soft lad, he could lodge in with Micky Mac for a couple of years and he wouln't be any different.
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