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| Quote ="MatautiaVila"Wow, some quality arrogance coming over there'"
Surely not!?
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| Quote ="MatautiaVila"Wow, some quality arrogance coming over there'"
It is allowed, indeed expected. After all, we are double title holders, dontcha know
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| Tonight's game Salford v Leeds. The Reds are on a 4 day turnaround, Leeds 7.
Next week we are on a 4 day break Salford 6.
Sorry, but that's just not right for either game, 4 days is no recovery period and teams should not be playing unless both have a decent recovery time.
The most important thing for me in all this is player welfare. One team has recovered from their previous game and is prepared, the other is neither. It appears player welfare has not been taken into consideration.
IMO next Thursday's TV game should have been Hull FC v Saints. Hull on a 7 day gap Saints 6. The Salford/Leeds and Wigan/ Salford fixtures are just plain wrong!
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| Quote ="Father Ted"It appears player welfare has not been taken into consideration. '"
do you want to write to Murdoch & the rest of the slime-balls at Sly or should I
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| Quote ="MatautiaVila"Wow, some quality arrogance coming over there'"
One person’s thoughts of another person’s possible open arrogance may just be showing that that person is only demonstrating sad thoughts of envy themselves!
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Just out of curiosity how many times have Saints had a Sunday/Thursday turnaround this season?
I've stated many times that it shouldn't happen and is not allowed in Aus. If you play Sunday then you should not be made to play Thursday, I've argued it since day one of the Thursday fixtures.
I'm not talking about Sky manipulating the fixtures, I'm talking about common sense.'"
If the yellow peril won't answer you Rogues I will. The answer is "none" and that is the same answer for Leeds and Warrington. Even further than that Leeds had a four day turnaround at Easter when most clubs had just a three day gap. The fact that Wigan have now faced this unfair burden twice makes one wonder if there isn't an agenda here.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Salford are playing Leeds on Friday (again changed due to Sky) this fixture gives us a 4 day turn-a-round whereas Leeds who played Cas last Thursday have 7 days.
Swings and roundabouts.'"
That comment would have some relevance if not for the fact that some clubs (like Leeds) are never at the fun fair.
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| I have been digging further into this matter and next Thursday will be the 6th occasion that a team has been asked to play on Thursday after having played on the previous Sunday. As well as Wigan, other teams drawing the short straw have been Wakefield, Widnes and Castleford twice. Only Castleford have won when at this disadvantage and that was when they faced London. If it is obvious that a team is disadvantaged when faced with such a short turn round then it is equally obvious that their opponents have been given an advantage. One team has enjoyed that benefit on two occasions. Would you be surprised to find out that the lucky team is LEEDS.
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| Here's a crazy theory; maybe the club would've said something to The RFL if they thought the turnaround was too short. As it is, it's just a few people moaning on here.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Here's a crazy theory; maybe the club would've said something to The RFL if they thought the turnaround was too short. As it is, it's just a few people moaning on here.'"
Not moaning, just pointing out inequalities.
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| Quote ="Singing Warrior"I have been digging further into this matter and next Thursday will be the 6th occasion that a team has been asked to play on Thursday after having played on the previous Sunday. As well as Wigan, other teams drawing the short straw have been Wakefield, Widnes and Castleford twice. Only Castleford have won when at this disadvantage and that was when they faced London. If it is obvious that a team is disadvantaged when faced with such a short turn round then it is equally obvious that their opponents have been given an advantage. One team has enjoyed that benefit on two occasions. Would you be surprised to find out that the lucky team is LEEDS.'"
Good grief!!.... I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but that does smack of being unfair, at the very least...
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| Quote ="Singing Warrior"I have been digging further into this matter and next Thursday will be the 6th occasion that a team has been asked to play on Thursday after having played on the previous Sunday. As well as Wigan, other teams drawing the short straw have been Wakefield, Widnes and Castleford twice. Only Castleford have won when at this disadvantage and that was when they faced London. If it is obvious that a team is disadvantaged when faced with such a short turn round then it is equally obvious that their opponents have been given an advantage. One team has enjoyed that benefit on two occasions. Would you be surprised to find out that the lucky team is LEEDS.'"
Didn't we also have a four day turnaround when we played Wakefield away?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Didn't we also have a four day turnaround when we played Wakefield away?'"
Yes Rogues, I said in an earlier post that Wigan will have had this 4 day turnround twice with the game against Salford. The other game was against Wakefield.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Tonight's game Salford v Leeds. The Reds are on a 4 day turnaround, Leeds 7.
Next week we are on a 4 day break Salford 6.
Sorry, but that's just not right for either game, 4 days is no recovery period and teams should not be playing unless both have a decent recovery time.
The most important thing for me in all this is player welfare. One team has recovered from their previous game and is prepared, the other is neither. It appears player welfare has not been taken into consideration.
IMO next Thursday's TV game should have been Hull FC v Saints. Hull on a 7 day gap Saints 6. The Salford/Leeds and Wigan/ Salford fixtures are just plain wrong!'"
Sunday to Friday is a 5 day turnround.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Salford are playing Leeds on Friday (again changed due to Sky) this fixture gives us a 4 day turn-a-round whereas Leeds who played Cas last Thursday have 7 days.
Swings and roundabouts.'"
By the way, your arithmetic is not very good. Sunday to Friday is a gap of FIVE days.
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| Firstly I don't but these conspiracy theories but who am I to get in the way of the entertainment they provide on a fans forum.
Sky moved our game to Thursday because that's the one they wanted on telly. They wouldn't look it care about whether a team has he 4 days rest or not. As others have said it is not allowed in Australia and shouldn't be allowed here.
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"Firstly I don't but these conspiracy theories but who am I to get in the way of the entertainment they provide on a fans forum.
Sky moved our game to Thursday because that's the one they wanted on telly. They wouldn't look it care about whether a team has he 4 days rest or not. As others have said it is not allowed in Australia and shouldn't be allowed here.'"
Spot on. There's no conspiracy theory but it's just not fair on the players or the fans but Sky don't care (and why would they) and the RFL are too weak to say no.
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| Quote ="Singing Warrior":3pfxp9l3I have been digging further into this matter and next Thursday will be the 6th occasion that a team has been asked to play on Thursday after having played on the previous Sunday. As well as Wigan, other teams drawing the short straw have been Wakefield, Widnes and Castleford twice. Only Castleford have won when at this disadvantage and that was when they faced London. If it is obvious that a team is disadvantaged when faced with such a short turn round then it is equally obvious that their opponents have been given an advantage. One team has enjoyed that benefit on two occasions. Would you be surprised to find out that the lucky team is LEEDS.'"
It was a dire game! We won't be a threat tomorrow, so no need to worry about short turn around.
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| Quote ="hindle xiii"[pedant modeWakefield and Bradford faced each other in round 2 on the Thursday after each playing the previous Sunday.[/pedant mode
It was a dire game! We won't be a threat tomorrow, so no need to worry about short turn around.'"
Yes I had noticed that fixture at the start of the season but as there was no disadvantage to either team I discounted it. It is not the fixture against your team that is after a short turnround. That comes on Thursday next when we play Salford.
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| Quote ="pies-r-us"One person’s thoughts of another person’s possible open arrogance may just be showing that that person is only demonstrating sad thoughts of envy themselves!
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That'll be it
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Shaun Wane's squad selection for the Bradford match will be interesting as we then play Salford after only a four day turnaround. We know what happened when we went to Wakey after just a four day break.
Today SW has said Blake Green and Iain Thornley are a couple of weeks away. In a couple of weeks we don't have a game due to the C Cup semis. Maybe he's looking to bring them back early for the Salford game?
When SKY changed the game it did worry me that a game which we would expect to win became a game that will be a struggle. SKY knew this when they moved the game from a Friday to Thursday giving Salford 6 days and us four.
Was this trying to make an uncompetitive game competitive for TV purposes? If so then they are taking the game in areas they should not be dealing with. If they are trying to manipulate the League table by pulling stunts like this then they need telling and very firmly. Where does player welfare come in all this? Obviously nowhere!
I hope we win them both and well but we all need to get down to the DW for the Salford game to give our support to the lads who will need it.'"
After your pathetic post above and performance at Bradford I take it you mean Wigan
See pathetic is easy.
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| Quote ="Singing Warrior"By the way, your arithmetic is not very good. Sunday to Friday is a gap of FIVE days.'"
So you're including Friday (ie the game day) great logic.
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| Quote ="Singing Warrior"By the way, your arithmetic is not very good. Sunday to Friday is a gap of FIVE days.'"
That's including the match day, in that case Leeds had 8 days then.
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| Wigan are facing a four day turnaround.
As has been mentioned a pattern has emerged whereby those teams on a four day turnaround do not win, Cas when facing London apart.
This is Wigan's first time in the straight SL League fixtures. The Wakey game which was a four day gap was a re-arranged fixture due to the WCC match. Both Wigan and Widnes lost after their four day gap.
The idea that SKY do not know this by now is naive and laughable.
Also what bothers me greatly is player welfare. Players going into a game hardly recovered against an opposition that is both recovered and prepared.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"So you're including Friday (ie the game day) great logic.'"
Of course I have you numpty. If you didn't count the game day Wigan's match against Salford would be a three day turn round.
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