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| Superb win with a weak side against a team with a better squad than us
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"And when Lockers came back on
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Yeah, he was great. It was a rope a dope style performance but 9 times out of 10 Warrington are 20 plus points clear after 60 minutes based on the passage of play.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"It wasn’t pretty but that was a huge effort defensively. We look messy in attack or at least we did until Smith came on and played like a proper halfback.
Our props have taken a lot of stick but I thought the three lads in there give it one hell of a shot. I thought Partington was everywhere and Singleton really impressed me when he came on. He looked a very useful acquisition tonight.'"
Singleton has done more in that game than what burgess has done in all the games he’s played. He ran a great line and was unlucky not to score. He wasn’t left behind in any tackles.
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| Thanks to the Warrington player who said they would take the 2 when they didn’t want to as well
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"Superb win with a weak side against a team with a better squad than us'"
Likes putting his foot in it Fitzpatrick doesn't he. That was a poor performance again but a very much improved second half for some individuals. Hardaker and Singleton in particular. Singleton can't be fit yet but looks a very good addition already. French got his hands on the ball more and Bullock and farrell showed up well. Glaring weaknesses in our side though.
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| Singleton was a breath of fresh air - added some steel when he was on.
Soaked up a lot of pressure and had to defend some great play from Warrington but they clearly ran out of gas at the end and we looked really threatening in the last 15.
Still big issues in the team and only winning a semi-final/final will turn it around for Lam but a really courageous performance.
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| Not vintage by any stretch and I thought for a lot of the game we were on the back foot throwing the odd jab (to use a boxers comparison). But the more we kept Wire out the more frustrated they got and the more we got our tails up led by the outstanding Zak Hardaker.
The turning point was Oli’s shot on Austin, alongside getting us over he took Austin out the game as well. Austin did his usual childlike strop and after that went hiding. It didn’t help Wire with Widdop being so poor.
What I couldn’t get my head around was the decision to wait until so late in the game to bring Smith on but not only that bringing him on for Powell with JH to hooker. Surely our best HB line up is JH and Smith?
On we go. Good win which keeps us in the play offs.
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| Just to add, I thought Singleton was immense. He really got stuck in and took the hard balls up and made good yardage. I was happy we signed him and he has justified that signing on that performance.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"Just to add, I thought Singleton was immense. He really got stuck in and took the hard balls up and made good yardage. I was happy we signed him and he has justified that signing on that performance.'"
100% he had a great debut, hope there’s more to come
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| Quote ="WWste"Singleton has done more in that game than what burgess has done in all the games he’s played. He ran a great line and was unlucky not to score. He wasn’t left behind in any tackles.'"
I don’t think he’s ever going to break teams apart but he just looked like a proper prop tonight. He’s big and aggressive and just looked like a guy who won’t take any sh*te. It wasn’t carpet carrying, plastic hard man stuff like Clubb comes up with most weeks but just a bit of controlled aggression and he gave of the impression that he’ll be more than prepared to get involved in the tough stuff. If you add Havard in to those three tonight, it looked like we may have a solid base to build from as those younger props get more experience.
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| Might not be a popular call but I think Lam deserves a good bit of credit tonight.
Made some big calls during the game and timed his subs to perfection.
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| Was that game as good as sky are making out? I’m buzzing we won and thought we showed great character but I’m not sure it was a classic.
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| Quote ="jonh"Might not be a popular call but I think Lam deserves a good bit of credit tonight.
Made some big calls during the game and timed his subs to perfection.'"
If it was tactical the Shift in half back and hooker worked really well.
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| Quote ="CobraCraig"Was that game as good as sky are making out? I’m buzzing we won and thought we showed great character but I’m not sure it was a classic.'"
More handling errors than you might see normally, but I would take a game like that over a 30 point hammering of someone.
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| Just relieved that we won. 3 losses in a row didn't bare thinking about.
That being said how can we be so dogged this week and so powderpuff last week? We're so Jackal and Hyde it's crazy.
I said last week that the measure of a good coach is the gap between his team's best and worst performances. Sadly the difference between ours is too large to take too much comfort from tonight.
Tonight's the minimum that I'd expect from us and I really, really do hope this is finally the line in the sand.
On another note - I'm surprised how well Kevin Brown came across tonight.
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"Just relieved that we won. 3 losses in a row didn't bare thinking about.
That being said how can we be so dogged this week and so powderpuff last week? We're so Jackal and Hyde it's crazy.
I said last week that the measure of a good coach is the gap between his team's best and worst performances. Sadly the difference between ours is too large to take too much comfort from tonight.
Tonight's the minimum that I'd expect from us and I really, really do hope this is finally the line in the sand.
On another note - I'm surprised how well Kevin Brown came across tonight.'"
I’d go as far as saying Brown has been the best that Sky have had on in that role for a long time. The commentary otherwise (Jenna aside) was dog rough as per.
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| Quote ="jonh"Might not be a popular call but I think Lam deserves a good bit of credit tonight.
Made some big calls during the game and timed his subs to perfection.'"
I think everyone would love for Lam to be a success but I don’t think tonight changed anything regards my thinking. Our effort and desire most of the time is absolutely spot on and it was again tonight but I still couldn’t see tonight what our game plan is. We played completely risk free rugby, so we’re certainly not just playing what’s in front of us or being encouraged to express ourselves but then there’s no structure to it that I can see. People say sometimes after a win ‘nobody will be calling for x coaches head tonight’ but my opinion on him is exactly the same as last week. He isn’t the man for us IMO but would love to be proved wrong.
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| Quote ="jonh"Might not be a popular call but I think Lam deserves a good bit of credit tonight.
Made some big calls during the game and timed his subs to perfection.'"
Credit for what exactly? If Austin doesn’t bottle it, Widdop doesn’t do the frankly bizarre things he did; Warrington win. We won yes but we were still for the most part, poor. A win doesn’t change my mind, I’m not that fickle.
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| Quote ="WWste"Singleton has done more in that game than what burgess has done in all the games he’s played. He ran a great line and was unlucky not to score. He wasn’t left behind in any tackles.'"
Great call.
I said exactly the same to my son
A good old fashioned run hard tackle hard prop.
Thought Bullock did ok as well and did more minutes than usual which for me was really pleasing. I though that he was limping after the game but hopefully nothing too serious
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I think everyone would love for Lam to be a success but I don’t think tonight changed anything regards my thinking. Our effort and desire most of the time is absolutely spot on and it was again tonight but I still couldn’t see tonight what our game plan is. We played completely risk free rugby, so we’re certainly not just playing what’s in front of us or being encouraged to express ourselves but then there’s no structure to it that I can see. People say sometimes after a win ‘nobody will be calling for x coaches head tonight’ but my opinion on him is exactly the same as last week. He isn’t the man for us IMO but would love to be proved wrong.'"
Agree 100%
Over the moon with the win but I can still see we seem rudderless for the majority of the minutes.
Tough game next week versus Catalan who for me are the dark horses of the competition.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"Credit for what exactly? If Austin doesn’t bottle it, Widdop doesn’t do the frankly bizarre things he did; Warrington win. We won yes but we were still for the most part, poor. A win doesn’t change my mind, I’m not that fickle.'"
I am glad that we won but on another day we could have been 20 odd points down at half time. For the first 25 minutes we were second best everywhere. I thought that Partington put in a good shift and Isa stood up well despite the sin binning but we were being outgunned. We struggled to get out of our half again which meant that we had to rely on defence again.
I am not sure what we want Bibby to do. When young Hanley dropped the same amount of ball against Saints there were messages on here calling for him to be sacked so I would suggest that Bibby is no longer suited to the wing position and he looked more confident in the centres. I do wish that he would not come in off the wing and run across his centre in a desperate attempt to make a tackle.
Singleton looks a step up from Clark and I thought that we looked a lot more balanced when Smith came on.
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"Great call.
I said exactly the same to my son
A good old fashioned run hard tackle hard prop.
Thought Bullock did ok as well and did more minutes than usual which for me was really pleasing. I though that he was limping after the game but hopefully nothing too serious'"
Felt really refreshing watching Singleton play - he'll be a good replacement for Ben Flower.
Bullock did well in playing more minutes than he's used to - what in God's name was that pass mid way through the second half though?
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"Credit for what exactly? If Austin doesn’t bottle it, Widdop doesn’t do the frankly bizarre things he did; Warrington win. We won yes but we were still for the most part, poor. A win doesn’t change my mind, I’m not that fickle.'"
His subs changed the game.
His shift of Hardaker to the wing shored up the defence.
All calls he had to make during the game.
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| It was an interesting game tonight. A real Shaun Wane style performance.
Defensively I thought we were outstanding, we soaked up a lot of pressure and had a lot of second phase plays to deal with.
Oli P came up with a game changer (did he do 80 mins BTW?) That hit on Austin which led to the try was a massive turning point in the game. They were well on top at the time, Austin was causing us a lot of problems, after the hit he went into grubby hissy fit mode and the try gave us a lot of confidence.
The second half was much better and proves the pack can hold its own. We started to win the territory battle and build pressure which told in the end.
Having another big body in the middle in Singleton (good debut BTW) will help. He’s the type of fairly low cost (I assume), experienced prop we and every team need a couple of.
I’m pretty happy over all, it was a far from great performance but I was expecting a heavy defeat so to come out with a win in a tough, intense game like that is (to use a Wane word) very satisfying.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Felt really refreshing watching Singleton play - he'll be a good replacement for Ben Flower.
Bullock did well in playing more minutes than he's used to - what in God's name was that pass mid way through the second half though?'"
It was great seeing a natural experienced Prop on the field.
Partington came up with some big plays in isolation but still lacks the size in my opinion to be a long term solution at Prop.
When we signed Singleton there were quite a few comments regarding his lack of size, however he looked significantly bigger than most of our pack tonight.
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