Crusaders beat us away as well

I thought Paris beat Sheffield in their first game?

Absolutely. Written in the stars

They did. In front of about 18k-20k IIRC.

A loss spells the end of Lam, a narrow win buys him a stay of execution for a few weeks. Nothing other than a thumping win versus a weak Toronto team will do tonight. Anything else is unacceptable IMHO.

I wouldn't go that far but pressure would certainly be on. The Facebook crew will be merciless if we get beat tonight. I think if the performance is good and we still don't thump them will be a good improvement.

May well be a little bit far and I can appreciate that viewpoint but a loss or narrow win will only seek to further prove the continued decline and lack of improvement in the team and club. I sincerely hope that in 4 hours I’m sat here eating my words and toasting to a fantastic Wigan performance.

Well, we kinda do, but surely 'magic' is just a bonus, like that try French scored. It's not what any team should be relying on to win games week in, week out. That takes organisation and planning. Ideally you have both in your locker. We currently look some way off that.

Good to see Bullock and Clark involved, how Clubb was picked ahead of Bryne or Havard baffles me though

Tony Clubb starting. Seriously what does he have to do wrong to be dropped?

I predict: Pies 46 Wolfpack 12

I hate being right.

Matty the attack pretty goddam clueless isn't it, i read your post earlier and thought exactly same

I can’t claim to be right as such but this performance is what I feared. It’s bloody awful, no movement, no go forward. Saints, Warrington and Hull will stick 50+ on this poor Toronto team. It’s just nowhere near good enough.

Unless there's drastic improvement we will struggle to be in the top half of the table

What's the point in Twenty Minute Tony?

You will easily be top 5, purely because the standard of rugby league is so bad these days. In the late 90s this Wigan team would be fighting against relegation and the saints team that walked super league last season would be mid table at best

Honestly it’s an awful performance, despite the 22 point margin of which we only got in the last 15mins when they’re tired and down to 12.

Toronto should have been put to the sword. Instead we did our usual clueless attack.

Tony Clubb and Mitch Clarke might as well have not played.

Bevan French was outstanding once again. He must go to the halves with Jax for me.

We are 2 from 3 and always get better as the season progresses. Hastings and French are improving each week. Add in Gildart and hopefully a fit G Burgess and this team could be special.

I bet we’ve had exactly the same thread three game into the season for the past ten years!

What is this obsession with French playing in the halves? He’s scored 3 tries in 3 games at fullback and has been our best player by a mile, if he wouldn’t have been at fullback tonight we certainly wouldn’t have scored our second and third try and probably 1 or 2 others, Keep Smith at 7 and play Gildart and Zak in the centres when Ollie is fit

For me when Hastings and French link up we look our most dangerous and likely to score. That’s why I maintain he should be in the halves

Yeah and that comes from French linking in round the back on a block play, Smith and Hastings have the making of a special partnership in the halves and should be left for a while to get them used to each other

There's a definitely a team in there somewhere - they just need to be encouraged to play some bloody rugby! Dull, predictable one out play for much of the game but glimpses of real quality. The tries we did score were good to watch. God knows where we'd be without Bevan French - talk of moving him from full back is insanity.

Our completion rate must have been high so that's a plus.

I personally thought Clark and Bullock did OK off the bench and Smithies had his best game for a while.

Joe Burgess aside from his try was really struggling.

I thought we were unlucky with some penalty calls along with the two forward pass calls early 2nd half.

Is this 2019 again?

Fair enough. The only thing I’d say back to that is when Gildart is back we may well see Zak to FB.