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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"And who he continues to select as his captain.
FWIW:
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HAHA ..youve picked 6 wigan players in a combined 13.Is that why you are in a relegation dogfight and we are 6 points clear at the top.
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| For a top club, Saints have failed massively to convert quality into trophies. 1 GF in 12 years and 0 Cups for 10 years is a horrific stat. As I said 12 months ago, pride comes before a fall.
They need silverware this year.
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| Quote ="saintnickle34"HAHA ..youve picked 6 wigan players in a combined 13.Is that why you are in a relegation dogfight and we are 6 points clear at the top.'"
All 6 of them won the grand final last year. They’re very good players.
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| Quote ="saintnickle34"HAHA ..youve picked 6 wigan players in a combined 13.Is that why you are in a relegation dogfight and we are 6 points clear at the top.'"
They were added to the list just to ensure the Team bus knew the way to Sir Matt Busby Way
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| Quote ="JWarriors"All 6 of them won the grand final last year. They’re very good players.'"
Spot on.
As for a relegation dogfight we are closer to 5th than we are to relegation (and are the same number of points away from 4th than bottom) but everyone seems to overlook that.
Here is a genuine question to all the Saints fans.....
Your equivalent to our side on Good Friday would be, and feel free to offer better alternative replacements:
Coote, Swift, Costello, Percival, Grace, Fages, Welsby, Walmsley, Lomax, Douglas, Peyroux, Ashworth, Lees
Bentley, Amor, Taia, Knowles
You then lose Swift after 20 minutes and move Peyroux to centre and Costello to the wing.
How do you get on and how many weeks can you play a similar side or a side missing your entire first choice pack (Walmsley, Roby, Thompson, Taia, Paulo, Knowles) before you start to lose games?
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"Spot on.
As for a relegation dogfight we are closer to 5th than we are to relegation (and are the same number of points away from 4th than bottom) but everyone seems to overlook that.
Here is a genuine question to all the Saints fans.....
Your equivalent to our side on Good Friday would be, and feel free to offer better alternative replacements:
Coote, Swift, Costello, Percival, Grace, Fages, Welsby, Walmsley, Lomax, Douglas, Peyroux, Ashworth, Lees
Bentley, Amor, Taia, Knowles
You then lose Swift after 20 minutes and move Peyroux to centre and Costello to the wing.
How do you get on and how many weeks can you play a similar side or a side missing your entire first choice
pack (Walmsley, Roby, Thompson, Taia, Paulo, Knowles) before you start to lose games?'"
I would Think the team you posted above would win more games than they would lose.
Your 4 points off the bottom place London and 16 points off top place saints.Your 7th place in the league out of 12.The only way you would alter our chances of getting to Old Trafford would be to have a Terry Newton type of player causing mayhem.
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| Quote ="saintnickle34"I would Think the team you posted above would win more games than they would lose.
Your 4 points off the bottom place London and 16 points off top place saints.Your 7th place in the league out of 12.The only way you would alter our chances of getting to Old Trafford would be to have a Terry Newton type of player causing mayhem.'"
I don't remember Catalans or Warrington having to cause much 'Terry Newton style mayhem' in last years semi finals?
Although Catalans did cause mayhem at Bolton, the game was over by half time wasn't it?
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Remind me who one of the greatest coaches of all time picked at centre out of Gildart and Percival last year will you please?
It’s slipped my mind.'"
Doesn’t mean he was right does it? Gildart got torn a new one at Anfield anyway. Also, out of interest, which centres were chosen in the dream team? I take it Gildart was, as he’s so good.
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| Quote ="AS108"Doesn’t mean he was right does it? Gildart got torn a new one at Anfield anyway. Also, out of interest, which centres were chosen in the dream team? I take it Gildart was, as he’s so good.'"
A team chosen by journalists or one chosen by Wayne Bennett. Mmmmm, which one should I choose to respect most?
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| Love the confidence of the Saints fans - worked out well for them last year didn’t it? Remind me who won the grand final again?
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| Quote ="Sunshine state"Seems folk on Red Vee think we are obsessed with them as we’ve gone to 8 pages, that’s a laugh every post they put on their pages they can’t resist mentioning us, oh and always in derogatory terms, never constructive......well maybe once or twice we get a compliment,'"
Well, you have started a thread dedicated to us.
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"A team chosen by journalists or one chosen by Wayne Bennett. Mmmmm, which one should I choose to respect most?
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Last season Percival scored 20 try’s, set 17 up. Whereas Gildart scored 13 and set 8 up. Percival is far better and the stats back that up.
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| Quote ="AS108"Last season Percival scored 20 try’s, set 17 up. Whereas Gildart scored 13 and set 8 up. Percival is far better and the stats back that up.'"
Percy isn’t fit to lace Gildart’s boots. Let’s not forget, Mr Bennett also opted to play a second rower at centre instead of him too!
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| Quote ="AS108"Last season Percival scored 20 try’s, set 17 up. Whereas Gildart scored 13 and set 8 up. Percival is far better and the stats back that up.'"
last year Gildart won the grand final....Percy won erm
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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"Percy isn’t fit to lace Gildart’s boots. Let’s not forget, Mr Bennett also opted to play a second rower at centre instead of him too!'"
You’re arguing against statistics with one mans opinion.
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| Quote ="Pieman"last year Gildart won the grand final....Percy won erm'"
What have team honours got to do with individual ability?
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| Quote ="AS108"You’re arguing against statistics with one mans opinion.'"
Arguably the most successful coach in RL history, I believe his opinion is valid.
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| Saints fans are losing their heads already and the wheels haven’t even started to come off yet
Would love Lam to get binned off and Waney to come in as caretaker coach til the end of the season, there would be panic & hysteria over the Lump
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| Quote ="Orrell Lad"Saints fans are losing their heads already and the wheels haven’t even started to come off yet
Would love Lam to get binned off and Waney to come in as caretaker coach til the end of the season, there would be panic & hysteria over the Lump
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You’re the ones who have started a thread to discuss how great we are.
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| Quote ="apollosghost"Arguably the most successful coach in RL history, I believe his opinion is valid.'"
Obviously but the validity of his opinion is irrelevant. The point is statistics are fact and they carry more weight than one persons opinion and the statistics clearly show Percival is considerably better than Gildart.
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| Quote ="AS108"You’re the ones who have started a thread to discuss how great we are.'"
You're no better than you usually are, fair to average, its just that this season so far, most of the rest are worse than that at the moment. Lets see what happens in October, if you're still around
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| Quote ="AS108"Obviously but the validity of his opinion is irrelevant. The point is statistics are fact and they carry more weight than one persons opinion and the statistics clearly show Percival is considerably better than Gildart.'"
"Lies, damn lies and statistics"
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| Quote ="apollosghost""Lies, damn lies and statistics"'"
Great but I’ll stick with Percival having 16 more try involvements along with everything else, over someone’s opinion.
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