Not his first time either, caught ten years ago. https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/ ... 57926bb209

Not his first time either, caught ten years ago. https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/ ... 57926bb209

If you bought a stately home then yes, and that’s what a sports club is like owning. Looks great, good to brag about, you really enjoy it but it’ll cost you.

Any potential buyer will no doubt know full well that they will be putting their own money in, it’s like buying a Ferrari and saying that it’s costs a lot of money to run. People who buy Ferrari’s don’t worry about running costs, neither will people who buy sports clubs.

Correct.

I do also have some sympathy for his family but it’s tough to say you have much for him after doing this for a second time. It really isn’t something you can have much sympathy for, as I’m sure the families of victims caught up in drink driving incidents would agree.

The club set a precedent not firing off Hardaker or Mullen but this is a second offence and if visa issues take it out the clubs hands then so be it.

My only sympathies lie with his immediate family and the trauma at not knowing where their husband/father is going to be in 28days time; UK or back in Australia?

It’s looking like Wigan’s hand is going to be forced due to the immigration and visa issues. It sure pleases me, and many others I’d expect, that TT is going to be off the books. But, I’m not happy at the way it happened. After having seen and dealt with the horrific aftermath of fatal collisions whereby it’s caused by a drink driver I’m astounded anyone, professional sportsman or not, can get behind the wheel after consuming alcohol. He’s got form for it as well from 2009 whilst at Parramatta.

I’d like the club to come out strongly on this and once and for all put it out there - get caught taking drugs, you’re sacked. Get caught drink driving, you’re sacked. Break the law, you’re sacked. Do anything away from the club to tarnish the clubs reputation, you’re sacked. Only a tough stance from here on in will eradicate this type of behaviour.

Lmao

That’s an unfair comparison, d1cks can catch STDs, TT couldn’t catch a cold.

I've said it many times...RL players are thick. Some thicker than others....but they're all thick.

It's not blaming his previous clubs, it's including them. You see the difference? No, of course you don't. As I said; Don't let it stop you...

I think the analogy works well for football e.g. Man City, but I don’t believe it crosses over to rugby league. I don’t believe people pump money into rugby league clubs for status, they do it for passion. Lenagan is a Scholes lad and Wigan fan. If not, he’d have probably made a more prudent investment.

If someone with passion and a lot of money wants to buy Wigan, fantastic. The point I’ve made in a number of comments is that these people are very very rare. Everyone wants Lenagan gone but without an idea of who would buy us.

I would like Lenagan to listen to offers ‘if’ there are good people, with the club at heart and the funds in place to drive us forward. If those people do not exist then I want something pretty simple and that’s honesty. I want Mr Lenagan to stop treating the fans with contempt, I want him to be honest about our financial position, I want him to be honest about arrangements for players leaving to come back, I want him to be honest about what deals are actually signed and which aren’t and I’d like some honesty on why a coach who continually brought success to the club under tough conditions suddenly decided he couldn’t go on. I can accept being skint and cutting costs if I’m told that’s the case. I can accept signing project players from the Championship and squad players from mid to lower end superleague clubs as long as they don’t try and bill them up as though we’ve signed the second coming of Gene Miles or Kelvin Skerrett.

I’ve grown tired over the years of the spin we put on absolutely everything. Ian Lenagan is a club legend for my money but it doesn’t give him the right to treat the fans as though they were born yesterday. The difference between the excited, fresh and driven chairman, who made it his business to make the fans feel included when he took over to the one who seems bored, distant and lacking the energy to try and drive us on is pretty staggering IMO.

Top post. I concur with virtually every word.

What is "The Wigan Way"?

Mud wrestling and pumping iron through the week, then dressing in your smart suit to go and sink 10 pints, brawl with anyone who comes near you, because you are far too important to speak to a common supporter?

Or

Treating your body as a temple, training hard in the right areas, increasing your pace, stamina and strength, skills work, going out with friends and family for a meal and perhaps saying hello to any fans who approach you for an autograph?

the latter, he says the players all expected that level also so you were in the if you didnt deliver that in training and the pitch. Off the pitch used to take care of its self really John Monie used to say he got phone calls of bar owners and he went and sorted it out.

Exactly. Radlinski mentions that the latter was the culture when he came in to the squad but under Millward it felt like the former and he ridiculed it. Fast forward to today and the culture under the leadership of Rads seems a long way away from what he feels should be the culture and appears to be what he doesn't like.

No way can you blame the club for his drink driving he was out in a car at 4.10 in the morning he is to blame and him only imo! The club can only do so much look at football and Rooney and all his night time activity

no-one blamed United then !

Rooney was a one off at Utd, they weren't all at it or certainly weren't all caught at it.

Tautai is the 3rd player in 8 months to be caught drink driving, Hamlin has been done for drugs and that is on top of players fighting with one another, insulting the public whilst ed and getting injured acting the dick whilst ed.

What I'm saying is the players CANNOT be monitored 24/7 all the club can do is try and point players towards the lifestyle they should be living. There is no way you can stop these sort of things happening away from the club in players free time! What the Club CAN do is show a much firmer zero tolerance when players step out of line and if a player making a bad error in his life has underlying issues that have caused certain actions by all means help them. But if there's actions are just bad errors of judgement well then the players should know better and the book needs throwing at them and showing them that this kind of stuff wont be tolerated by the club!!

I agree, and that is the part that it doesn't appear is being done because too many players are going out and doing it.

Quote ="MattyB"Not his first time either, caught ten years ago. https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/ ... 57926bb209'" There's a lot of allegedly's in that article. Was he actually found guilty of anything?

Quote ="MattyB"Not his first time either, caught ten years ago. https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/ ... 57926bb209'" There's a lot of allegedly's in that article. Was he actually found guilty of anything?

We could have done with him at Leeds. He's not playing well but we've now lost Flower for quite a while as well.
I'd be curious to know what medical advice, if any, he was given after suffering concussion and possible medication against Wire. Surely he'd be told not to drive for 24 hours? Avoid alcohol for 24 hours? Just as a precautionary method for his own good? Maybe? Maybe not?

I can see Radlinski using concussion as an excuse for his dangerous and illegal behaviour and claiming that it is not another example of the poisonous culture he's presiding over.

All it takes is self discipline, they’re grown men and should know better. I’m also angry that they were or on the lads after a defeat, that should be stopped straight away. Only allowed out if they win.

We are a professional Club being run by a bunch of amateurs.We have a management structure but what are the credentials of the various managers and what have they achieved in their current roles ?.As fans the treatment we receive borders on contempt !!!.I can only conclude that Lenagen’s management team comprises of a set of nodding dogs .
I have previously been loathe to criticise Lenagen but enough is enough and the buck stops with him.He needs to get a grip and fast because he has already lost a generation of season ticket holders and is in danger of losing another.

'Allowed out'

They are grown men!