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| Quote ="P-J"You'd support Edwards walking away?
This is clearly a bid to get himself in the shop window when his stock is at its highest. No doubt he's got his eye on the England RU defensive coach job.
If he wanted to come to Wigan it's a quick phone call to Radlinski to confirm everything is still on track. Airing it in the media shows his true intentions.
Fair play to him, if nothing has been signed then he's well within his rights to hawk his services about, but I'll certainly think less of him and will not support him.'"
wow, talk about a blinkered fan.
IL should have had the ink dry before announcing him.
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| Quote ="NSW"Everything about the club seems negative at the moment
- this mess of a situation
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- lying about the Bateman situation
- promise of good rugby but not seeing any
No wonder the fans seem to be staying away'"
I was saying at Wire on Friday that the feel good factor and buzz around the place was similar to how we used to be in Lenagans earlier year and when Simon Collinson was involved but nowadays it’s just flat in every single aspect of the club.
I can only reiterate what I’ve said on here previously in that whilst Ian Lenagan goes down as a legend in my eyes for what he did in turning the club around, if he’s not got the time, energy or resources to run the club in the way it deserves then I seriously hope he’s looking to move it in to somebody who does. If such a person exists is a totally different debate but things can’t continue to be run down like this.
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| I think this is the first time under IL that I’ve felt really down about the club. I think overall he has been fantastic for the club (look where we were when he took over). The youth set-up, women’s team, PDRL team, we’ve had multiple success on the pitch bringing home plenty trophies. We had massive crowds of c16k average and the town was buzzing!
So what is going wrong? The crowds have dropped year on year to c11k, despite what the announcement is the attendances feel physically much less inside the stadium.
Did IL take his eye off the ball with us when he became the chairman of the football league? Only stepping down last September? Did he put others in charge at the time and this is the fallout?
The Salary Cap issue was a worry (regardless of the small amount we were over), the club themselves have stated they ballsed up.
Now this. It’s a bit of a shambles. We had a massive press conference to announce SE signing a three year deal. Now we find out there was no contract and nothing has been signed. The club have now had to put out a hastily arranged meaningless statement which will only put petrol on the flames. This can only be down to £££ and our lack of it?
As I said in an earlier post this is a massive distraction in the lead up to the Salford game. They must be rubbing their hands at this! It’s vital we get a good result so we can climb to mid-table safety. It’s starting to feel very much like 2006 all over again.
Will IL ever recover from this with the supporters? I hope so but it will be a long road back. Results on the pitch will help.
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| Quote ="MattyB"I think this is the first time under IL that I’ve felt really down about the club. I think overall he has been fantastic for the club (look where we were when he took over). The youth set-up, women’s team, PDRL team, we’ve had multiple success on the pitch bringing home plenty trophies. We had massive crowds of c16k average and the town was buzzing!
So what is going wrong? The crowds have dropped year on year to c11k, despite what the announcement is the attendances feel physically much less inside the stadium.
Did IL take his eye off the ball with us when he became the chairman of the football league? Only stepping down last September? Did he put others in charge at the time and this is the fallout?
The Salary Cap issue was a worry (regardless of the small amount we were over), the club themselves have stated they ballsed up.
Now this. It’s a bit of a shambles. We had a massive press conference to announce SE signing a three year deal. Now we find out there was no contract and nothing has been signed. The club have now had to put out a hastily arranged meaningless statement which will only put petrol on the flames. This can only be down to £££ and our lack of it?
As I said in an earlier post this is a massive distraction in the lead up to the Salford game. They must be rubbing their hands at this! It’s vital we get a good result so we can climb to mid-table safety. It’s starting to feel very much like 2006 all over again.
Will IL ever recover from this with the supporters? I hope so but it will be a long road back. Results on the pitch will help.'"
Could it be the move from him investing his own money to the new strategic move of wanting the club to be self-sufficient?
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| The club statement is the craziest thing ive ever seen. Edwards has clearly clarified his position - he has no contract and has not been offered one. What more do they want him to do, get down on his knees in Mr Lenegans office and beg?
It wouldnt surprise me to see Edwards just sign a contract with somebody else now and i wouldnt blame him one bit.
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| Maybe we should get them both on Judge Rinder?
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| stupid comment for edwards who,s showing he doesn't want the job
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"The club statement is the craziest thing ive ever seen. Edwards has clearly clarified his position - he has no contract and has not been offered one. What more do they want him to do, get down on his knees in Mr Lenegans office and beg?
It wouldnt surprise me to see Edwards just sign a contract with somebody else now and i wouldnt blame him one bit.'"
Me either. If anything this puts other clubs in a driving seat, Wasps etc.
-They now know Edwards is free from 2020
-They can impress him simply by being a professional outfit
-They haven't publicly arrogated Edwards
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Could it be the move from him investing his own money to the new strategic move of wanting the club to be self-sufficient?'"
I can understand this, timing wise it isn’t great (attendances are plummeting). Where else is the income coming in from? Other than getting a transfer fee every twelve months for one of our stars, a short-sighted way of doing things?
Plus his strategy shouldn’t stop him (and his management team) from being professional. He’s supposed to be a successful businessman.
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| Quote ="P-J"You'd support Edwards walking away?
This is clearly a bid to get himself in the shop window when his stock is at its highest. No doubt he's got his eye on the England RU defensive coach job.
If he wanted to come to Wigan it's a quick phone call to Radlinski to confirm everything is still on track. Airing it in the media shows his true intentions.
Fair play to him, if nothing has been signed then he's well within his rights to hawk his services about, but I'll certainly think less of him and will not support him.'"
He’s within his rights to say sod it im off and given the ineptitude on display from the club I’d do the same,I think the whole situation was ridiculous from the start and this sort of thing could have happened at any time since his (non) signed for the club
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| Quote ="P-J"You'd support Edwards walking away?
This is clearly a bid to get himself in the shop window when his stock is at its highest. No doubt he's got his eye on the England RU defensive coach job.
If he wanted to come to Wigan it's a quick phone call to Radlinski to confirm everything is still on track. Airing it in the media shows his true intentions.
Fair play to him, if nothing has been signed then he's well within his rights to hawk his services about, but I'll certainly think less of him and will not support him.'"
Deluded!
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| Maybe the unveiling of Edwards was seemingly a good wheeze at the time ? But now the sum of money required, to get SE as coach has finally sunk in ?
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| Quote ="fleabag"Maybe the unveiling of Edwards was seemingly a good wheeze at the time ? But now the sum of money required, to get SE as coach has finally sunk in ?'"
I’m thinking this. It’s all about the money, money, money!
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Someone is lying here:
The club website is still saying this "Wigan Warriors are delighted to announce that Shaun Edwards OBE will return to the Club as Head Coach for the 2020 season [uafter signing a three-year contract.[/u
Read more at https://www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2018 ... iQ6dKDl.99
Edwards says different. What is enlightening is the club statement this morning doesn't mention the fact he signed a contract.
If it's proved the club have lied to the fans, Lenegan and Radlinski need to leave the club and put it up for sale.
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Someone is lying here:
The club website is still saying this "Wigan Warriors are delighted to announce that Shaun Edwards OBE will return to the Club as Head Coach for the 2020 season [uafter signing a three-year contract.[/u
Read more at https://www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2018 ... iQ6dKDl.99
Edwards says different. What is enlightening is the club statement this morning doesn't mention the fact he signed a contract.
If it's proved the club have lied to the fans, Lenegan and Radlinski need to leave the club and put it up for sale.
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Quote ="Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy"Someone is lying here:
The club website is still saying this "Wigan Warriors are delighted to announce that Shaun Edwards OBE will return to the Club as Head Coach for the 2020 season [uafter signing a three-year contract.[/u
Read more at https://www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2018 ... iQ6dKDl.99
Edwards says different. What is enlightening is the club statement this morning doesn't mention the fact he signed a contract.
If it's proved the club have lied to the fans, Lenegan and Radlinski need to leave the club and put it up for sale.'"
I'm inclined to believe Edwards on this one given the statement regarding Bateman signing to return and then Bateman saying he's not signed anything.
In the main IL has done very well for this club and we should all be very grateful for the stability and consistency he's given us, but this is now looking like a big mess.
If IL and Rads have lied to us then there needs to be some serious grovelling to get fans back on board.
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The club website is still saying this "Wigan Warriors are delighted to announce that Shaun Edwards OBE will return to the Club as Head Coach for the 2020 season [uafter signing a three-year contract.[/u
Read more at https://www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2018 ... iQ6dKDl.99
Edwards says different. What is enlightening is the club statement this morning doesn't mention the fact he signed a contract.
If it's proved the club have lied to the fans, Lenegan and Radlinski need to leave the club and put it up for sale.'"
I'm inclined to believe Edwards on this one given the statement regarding Bateman signing to return and then Bateman saying he's not signed anything.
In the main IL has done very well for this club and we should all be very grateful for the stability and consistency he's given us, but this is now looking like a big mess.
If IL and Rads have lied to us then there needs to be some serious grovelling to get fans back on board.
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Quote ="Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy"Someone is lying here:
The club website is still saying this "Wigan Warriors are delighted to announce that Shaun Edwards OBE will return to the Club as Head Coach for the 2020 season [uafter signing a three-year contract.[/u
Read more at https://www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2018 ... iQ6dKDl.99
Edwards says different. What is enlightening is the club statement this morning doesn't mention the fact he signed a contract.
If it's proved the club have lied to the fans, Lenegan and Radlinski need to leave the club and put it up for sale.'"
Categorically this
As things stand i dont know who to believe and the only real detail i am interested in if did he / did he not sign a contract.
Im a certified happy clapper and think in general IL has transformed this club. Seems however that he is starting to run things like Whelan did in the last years of his tenure.
If they have lied to us in order to extract money from season ticket holders then that is more disgusting than any breach of salary cap. I agree that IL needs to walk and KR too assuming he is complicit.
What an appalling situation whereby 3 club legends look to have tarnished their reputations in the town with little scope for redemption. Even if SE comes then the comical handling of the last 9 months has undermined everything before it even starts.
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The club website is still saying this "Wigan Warriors are delighted to announce that Shaun Edwards OBE will return to the Club as Head Coach for the 2020 season [uafter signing a three-year contract.[/u
Read more at https://www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2018 ... iQ6dKDl.99
Edwards says different. What is enlightening is the club statement this morning doesn't mention the fact he signed a contract.
If it's proved the club have lied to the fans, Lenegan and Radlinski need to leave the club and put it up for sale.'"
Categorically this
As things stand i dont know who to believe and the only real detail i am interested in if did he / did he not sign a contract.
Im a certified happy clapper and think in general IL has transformed this club. Seems however that he is starting to run things like Whelan did in the last years of his tenure.
If they have lied to us in order to extract money from season ticket holders then that is more disgusting than any breach of salary cap. I agree that IL needs to walk and KR too assuming he is complicit.
What an appalling situation whereby 3 club legends look to have tarnished their reputations in the town with little scope for redemption. Even if SE comes then the comical handling of the last 9 months has undermined everything before it even starts.
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This is unbelievable. I foresee a lengthy legal process which will hang over the club for years.
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This is unbelievable. I foresee a lengthy legal process which will hang over the club for years.
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| Quote ="snowie"stupid comment for edwards who,s showing he doesn't want the job'"
Are you for real? He says he was ready to sign a contract last year but was refused. Yet its Edwards fault? Unless the club have some genuine excuse or Edwards is lying then the blame lies solely with the club. I for one cant think of any genuine reason why the club would announce he'd signed a 3 year contract if he hadnt can you? And i very much doubt Edwards is lying as when the truth came out he would look like a massive idiot as well as a liar.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"This is unbelievable. I foresee a lengthy legal process which will hang over the club for years.'"
Is Edwards making a mockery of Wigan, it's a bit like he's sat in a strip club waiting for the prettiest girl to come alomg.
I do feel sorry for Wigan fans.
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"Is Edwards making a mockery of Wigan, it's a bit like he's sat in a strip club waiting for the prettiest girl to come alomg.
I do feel sorry for Wigan fans.'"
No, Edwards is doing what anybody would do. After 9 months of being left in no mans land, hes saying enough is enough.
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"Is Edwards making a mockery of Wigan, it's a bit like he's sat in a strip club waiting for the prettiest girl to come alomg.
I do feel sorry for Wigan fans.'"
Not his fault if pen hadn’t been put to paper. Edwards strikes me as a loyal sort of guy, very grounded and a family man. Had he penned a contract back in August I’m convinced we wouldn’t be here now.
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"Are you for real? He says he was ready to sign a contract last year but was refused. Yet its Edwards fault? Unless the club have some genuine excuse or Edwards is lying then the blame lies solely with the club. I for one cant think of any genuine reason why the club would announce he'd signed a 3 year contract if he hadnt can you? And i very much doubt Edwards is lying as when the truth came out he would look like a massive idiot as well as a liar.'"
you telling he can't pick a phone up or he hasn't even got a contact number to the club that and has to go to the press to talk to them,
now the club is saying he's not answering his phone and now they've gone to press,
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| Quote ="Pemps"I'm inclined to believe Edwards on this one given the statement regarding Bateman signing to return and then Bateman saying he's not signed anything.
In the main IL has done very well for this club and we should all be very grateful for the stability and consistency he's given us, but this is now looking like a big mess.
If IL and Rads have lied to us then there needs to be some serious grovelling to get fans back on board.'"
I'm a huge Lenegan fan and what he's done for the club, turning it around after the mess Mo left us in. However [uIF[/u it's proved the club have lied to the fans, I don't see anyway back for either him or Radlinski.
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