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| Quote ="DannyT"Paul Deacon of multiple trophy-winning teams and international caps? I think back then it was why are we ONLY signing Paul Deacon and yes that worked out well but to compare him to Sammut is stretching it a bit.'"
Paul Deacon who played the majority of his career behind a huge pack of forwards and often played in a dinner jacket given Bradford’s dominance up front, not to mention the quality of the backs he played with.
Has Sammutt ever had that kind of luxury?
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"I don't care what he's here for. Money? We have a marquee spot available and we're offloaded Sam Tomkins and John Bateman, plus a few more younger players, we have the space.'"
You've seen the finances then?
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Cash flow is clearly an issue at the club. Right now we are investing in facilities and structures rather than the playing squad which is fine but hopefully the former will pay off in the next 5-10 years.'"
Attendances are also down quite substantially - that's our biggest revenue source.
We clearly can't keep asking Lenagan to put his hand in his pocket - either he doesn't have the money anymore, or he's lost the will to do so.
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| great signing for you guys
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| Quote ="moto748"That's not very nice!
It's like some people would be disappointed if he doesn't fail. Cos being right on an internet board is the most important thing, right?
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| Wane out!!
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| Lets try to be positive guys. At least he cant be any worse then Denis Moran...... or can he??
My God, i never thought id see the day when Wigan signed Jam Butty to direct operations in the middle.
Id put this on par with the signing of Gavin Clinch.
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| I've always liked watching Sammut play but something has to be amiss with him if hasn't consistently played in Super league.
He had a blinder when I watched him play for Workington against Swinton a couple of seasons ago
Sydney Roosters will be shi itting themselves !!
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| Quote ="[Gareth"Ugh
Dennis Moran mkII'"
2002 Top try scorer in SL with 22 for the 8th placed side
2003 Top try scorer in SL with 24 for the 5th placed side
2004 6th top try scorer in with 19 for the 10th placed side
77 tries in 105 appearances in an average London side is pretty bloody good.
In 2005 he was the top try scorer at Wigan.....he does seem to be used as a scapegoat for a couple of seasons where you were a mid-table side and in 2006 he had his "wings clipped" by the coach and the result was dire....not his fault though!
Sammut is mercurial.....coach him well and he'll do fine, but if he sulks, you've just wasted a wage and a quota spot!
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| Quote ="P-J"Attendances are also down quite substantially - that's our biggest revenue source.
We clearly can't keep asking Lenagan to put his hand in his pocket - either he doesn't have the money anymore, or he's lost the will to do so.'"
Think Lenegan has not so much lost the will but is shaping the club for the future,I don’t see his family in love with the sport as much as he is,and he is to be fair,the days of him propping the club are at an end it seems
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| Quote ="hatty"We will if he misses a kick and we lose 23-22'"
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| Hasn't JS been brought in as a squad player? We've George at 6 and Tommy at 7 so Sammut isn't perhaps in our starting 17. He is experienced cover should Tommy call it quits end of 2019.
So what will happen to Woods and Shorrocks and their efforts to claim a half back spot? This signing suggests that they are further back in the pecking order than previously.
Whether Sammut turns out to be a good signing time will tell but I wish him well and hope he succeeds like I do with all players who pull on our shirt.
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| I wouldn't be shocked to see one of Woods/Shorrocks head out on a season long loan to someone like Leigh or London.
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| Quote ="hengirl"Think Lenegan has not so much lost the will but is shaping the club for the future,I don’t see his family in love with the sport as much as he is,and he is to be fair,the days of him propping the club are at an end it seems'"
That could be a good point - the comments about us having a marquee slot available might be technically true but paying for it is a totally different matter. The club has lost money consistently for the last few seasons - with the chairman putting his own money in we would be in trouble. The major investments recently have been in long term infrastructure.
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| Sammut will be a decent signing, never seemed to find his best over here, just earned a living.
If Wane was the coach this would be an awful choice but with Lam and then Edwards he may even get an extension after two years.
Lenners always said he was trying to shape the club so it was self-sufficient, it's his true goal before he goes.
He has ploughed millions into off-field projects and tried many other avenues of revenue.
4 SL Titles, 2 CC 2 LL 1 WCC under Lenners command isn't bad, is it?
Compared to the decade before he took over.
Trust in Lenners!!
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| Quote ="apollosghost"No one will be moaning after he's scored 22 points against Saints on the 31st of Jan.'"
I'll have a pint of this stuff please.
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| Quote ="Call Me God"2002 Top try scorer in SL with 22 for the 8th placed side
2003 Top try scorer in SL with 24 for the 5th placed side
2004 6th top try scorer in with 19 for the 10th placed side
77 tries in 105 appearances in an average London side is pretty bloody good.
In 2005 he was the top try scorer at Wigan.....he does seem to be used as a scapegoat for a couple of seasons where you were a mid-table side and in 2006 he had his "wings clipped" by the coach and the result was dire....not his fault though!
Sammut is mercurial.....coach him well and he'll do fine, but if he sulks, you've just wasted a wage and a quota spot!'"
To quote myself during his 1st season at Wigan...
Dennis Moran, out on the full
Cant wait for the Sammut picture of the day thread........
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"Lets try to be positive guys. At least he cant be any worse then Denis Moran...... or can he??
My God, i never thought id see the day when Wigan signed Jam Butty to direct operations in the middle.
Id put this on par with the signing of Gavin Clinch.'" Nothing can be as bad as that
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| I wonder how much input Shaun Edwards had in this decision? When all is said and done he will have Sammut in his squad for his first season. Living, as he does down south he may have seen a few London Bronco's matches and liked what he saw of Wigan's new signing, Just a thought.
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| After the euphoria of getting Lam and Edwards in as coaches, the one thing we needed was to announce the signing of a genuinely top class player. I’m confident that had we done that we would have seen a big boost in season ticket sales. The signing of Sammut will do absolutely nothing to sell season tickets before January.
It’s a vicious circle I suppose. To invest in a top player will cost marquee money but is likely to boost attendances meaning more money coming into the club. To spend less on players like Sammut will not boost attendances and will result in less money coming into the club. I’d say we needed to speculate to accumulate. I’m disappointed.
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| Quote ="CM Punk"I wouldn't be shocked to see one of Woods/Shorrocks head out on a season long loan to someone like Leigh or London.'"
Think Woods is almost certainly coming to Leigh on a season long loan - looks a very good prospect from the bits I've seen
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| Quote ="ColD"Think Woods is almost certainly coming to Leigh on a season long loan - looks a very good prospect from the bits I've seen'"
Bulk him up a bit for us, just my opinion but I don't think he's got the pace to make it as a half back but I reckon he could become a cracking ball handling 13.
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| Quote ="apollosghost"Bulk him up a bit for us, just my opinion but I don't think he's got the pace to make it as a half back but I reckon he could become a cracking ball handling 13.'"
Exactly my thoughts.
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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"After the euphoria of getting Lam and Edwards in as coaches, the one thing we needed was to announce the signing of a genuinely top class player. I’m confident that had we done that we would have seen a big boost in season ticket sales. The signing of Sammut will do absolutely nothing to sell season tickets before January.
It’s a vicious circle I suppose. To invest in a top player will cost marquee money but is likely to boost attendances meaning more money coming into the club. To spend less on players like Sammut will not boost attendances and will result in less money coming into the club. I’d say we needed to speculate to accumulate. I’m disappointed.'"
I'd like to see a top-class as much as the next man, but I'm not really convinced as to the existence in large numbers of this mythical group of people who aren't current ST holders, and the thought of watching the champions under a new coach in 2019 is not enough to entice them, they need a superstar scrum half too...
As I've argued before, how much did Ben Barba increase Saints' gates? Cas have been praised in recent seasons for their attacking footy, but is the Jungle packed to the rafters? Hardly. Attracting new customers (or even getting back old ones) is not easy.
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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"After the euphoria of getting Lam and Edwards in as coaches, the one thing we needed was to announce the signing of a genuinely top class player...'"
Hardaker?
Greenwood? (I appreciate we got him a few months earlier than expected)
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