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| Quote ="21-12"Arrogance is inherited through success unfortunately. Its bred into us, you lot were probably arrogant back in the 50s when you were alright, but as time moved on and Wigan began to dominate RL im guessing you became a little bit envious and jealous, sometimes even angry....then the internet began, and you was given a safe place to vent that anger and hatred, and now your here, and we are all laughing at you.'"
Grow up....keyboard warrior...have you ever played the game and I'm not talking about your Xbox..anybody objectively looking at that head high tackle that knocked a player immediately unconscious would agree the ban was far too lenient and inconsistent when compared to similar cases.
Players need to be protected and regardless of his previous clean record the fact that O'Loughlin plays for England and Wigan (and has a CC Semi coming up) should have been ignored but it doesn't seem to have been.
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| I've genuinely had enough of this game now,
its got beyond a joke,
I'm sick and tied of the whinging about the refs,
I'm sick and tied of players barracking the refs,
I'm sick and tied of the double standards the RFLs discipline that is given out when a grade is given it still doesn't represent its minimum charge,
I'm sick and tied of the double standards the RFL do to protect their vision of what they thought would be the Super League status
I'm sick and tied of sky not evenly distributing live coverage,
I'm sick and tired of our own councils NON attempt to get our stadium sorted.
no wonder the games going backwards, don't fool your selves you only have to look at way championship clubs are catching up or should we say we are dropping to their level,
international team is non existent we pick players out of form or who's been injured or from teams that have lingered at the bottom and now in the mid 8s, or get aussies to change due to their dads dad had a relation that was British
so sour grapes yes why not so crack on go play in canada
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Grow up....keyboard warrior...have you ever played the game and I'm not talking about your Xbox..anybody objectively looking at that head high tackle that knocked a player immediately unconscious would agree the ban was far too lenient and inconsistent when compared to similar cases.
Players need to be protected and regardless of his previous clean record the fact that O'Loughlin plays for England and Wigan (and has a CC Semi coming up) should have been ignored but it doesn't seem to have been.'"
Yes, played it and currently coach it, why?
As for the "horror tackle" it was a lazy arm, and very clumsy. Have a nice night.
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| Quote ="snowie"I've genuinely had enough of this game now,
its got beyond a joke,
I'm sick and tied of the whinging about the refs,
I'm sick and tied of players barracking the refs,
I'm sick and tied of the double standards the RFLs discipline that is given out when a grade is given it still doesn't represent its minimum charge,
I'm sick and tied of the double standards the RFL do to protect their vision of what they thought would be the Super League status
I'm sick and tied of sky not evenly distributing live coverage,
I'm sick and tired of our own councils NON attempt to get our stadium sorted.
no wonder the games going backwards, don't fool your selves you only have to look at way championship clubs are catching up or should we say we are dropping to their level,
international team is non existent we pick players out of form or who's been injured or from teams that have lingered at the bottom and now in the mid 8s, or get aussies to change due to their dads dad had a relation that was British
so sour grapes yes why not so crack on go play in canada'"
Wow, this has really affected you hasn't it?
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| Strange decision- definitely a reckless tackle worthy of 3 games IMO.
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| Does that mean that Leyther has stopped supporting the sport?
Hey-Ho!
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| 1 match very harsh, not to worry , we have got bigger fish to fry than Rhinos , have a rest get some training in then be ready for bit of a derby match then semi ! Look forward to our last visit of the season to Shedingley, hope it doesn't rain !
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| Quote ="21-12"Yes, played it and currently coach it, why?
As for the "horror tackle" it was a lazy arm, and very clumsy. Have a nice night.'"
It was a lazy clumsy arm and it was also dangerous head high tackle that immediately knocked a player unconscious. Whatever tripe gets written on forums no one can argue that the RFL is very inconsistent with its disciplinary procedures and this being a prime example of that..all players need to be protected even the fringe squad players at one of the smaller least successful SL clubs.....HETL..
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| Evening all got a lot of visitors interested in our forum tonight
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| Quote ="MattyB"Does that mean that Leyther has stopped supporting the sport?
Hey-Ho!'"
I think that's a different snowie. The leyther is Snowy.
Anyway, 10 games would've been appropriate for SOL
Regards,
A Leyther
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| Quote ="21-12"Wow, this has really affected you hasn't it?'"
not the just this in general the whole game gone corrupt, its been the first time in along time since I haven't held a season ticket at our club due to not financially being able to afford it, I actually work in our ground as we have a micro brewery in the corner, this opportunity was given to us after helping us at time when the club required help with stadium issues, so I've pretty close to some of the problems we've encountered, we've turned this club from being in debt to now running on an even keel but its not without further issues, I've seen first hand how we've struggled to get were we are now and get no praise for their efforts, the sky media has constantly battered us for years and in some way we've deserved some of it, the uneven distribution of live games has again effected the club in a season when we have been worthy of viewing, as for the discipline panel well you only have to just look at most of what's been dished out of late and even you should see that there's no common ground
so yes I fear after years of enjoying the game even at the lower end of the league this season maybe the last, my hearts not in it anymore
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| Just looking in to ensure that we are still hated...... Yep, looks like i can sleep happily..
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Just looking in to ensure that we are still hated...... Yep, looks like i can sleep happily..
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Just looking in to ensure that we are still hated...... Yep, looks like i can sleep happily..
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| Quote ="snowie"never hated wigan in fact I never hated any club, why would you think that'"
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| Quote ="snowie"not the just this in general the whole game gone corrupt, its been the first time in along time since I haven't held a season ticket at our club due to not financially being able to afford it, I actually work in our ground as we have a micro brewery in the corner, this opportunity was given to us after helping us at time when the club required help with stadium issues, so I've pretty close to some of the problems we've encountered, we've turned this club from being in debt to now running on an even keel but its not without further issues, I've seen first hand how we've struggled to get were we are now and get no praise for their efforts, the sky media has constantly battered us for years and in some way we've deserved some of it, the uneven distribution of live games has again effected the club in a season when we have been worthy of viewing, as for the discipline panel well you only have to just look at most of what's been dished out of late and even you should see that there's no common ground
so yes I fear after years of enjoying the game even at the lower end of the league this season maybe the last, my hearts not in it anymore'"
Maybe you should try supporting a big club. I don't get the feeling the game's corrupt from up here on my ivory tower - come and join us.
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| Not read anything in this thread, but I do have to say, I am extremely concerned that this was only a 1 game ban.
I understand all the mitigating evidence. Especially the fact that he was send from the field in the first half (which when we see people staying on the field and getting 2-3 game bans quite regularly shows that being sent off is actually worse than a 2-3 game ban). But that was clearly worth more than 1 game. I thought 2 games would have been acceptable.
From a player welfare point of view it does not look great. I can see that it is small margins from being a good tackle, and it isn't like he is dropping someone on their neck, but he did hit him high and with a flying arm.
From a club view I am obviously happy, but not sure I agree with it from the sports point of view.
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| I just think the RFL are simply inviting criticism with the way they do things. Why bother announcing a Grade C which carries 2-3 games if they are then going to consider these "mitigating factors." Why not consider the factors and then decide on a Grade? At least that way they won't be seen to be backing down and changing their minds. They really don't help themselves at all.
The backlash is inevitable but I can assure people this isn't anything to do with me being a Saints fan. I just don't understand their methods and I feel they could avoid a lot of the criticism by doing things differently.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"I just think the RFL are simply inviting criticism with the way they do things. Why bother announcing a Grade C which carries 2-3 games if they are then going to consider these "mitigating factors." Why not consider the factors and then decide on a Grade? At least that way they won't be seen to be backing down and changing their minds. They really don't help themselves at all.
The backlash is inevitable but I can assure people this isn't anything to do with me being a Saints fan. I just don't understand their methods and I feel they could avoid a lot of the criticism by doing things differently.'"
I do tend to agree. I feel they should have phrased it as downgrading from a C to a B, which it really was...careless rather than reckless. Then the mitigating factors simply lead to the minimum for that grade. Much less controversial.
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| Quote ="Suzy Banyon"Maybe you should try supporting a big club. I don't get the feeling the game's corrupt from up here on my ivory tower - come and join us.'" why would I want to support a bigger club, you don't get it do you, I was born half a mile from Wakefield's ground, I've lived in Wakefield area all my life its not all about success you are what you are I could of been a fev fan but chose to support Wakefield maybe because my father did, I played for the colts back in the seventies breaking my ankle and missing the 79 final to go watch my team, after all those years we end up have one of the best seasons in the cup and league after being at the bottom for so long, would I swap no way I'll go down with the sinking ship thank you with my head held high proud that I stood by my club and not move just for glory
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Paranoid.... Much....'"
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| Quote ="jimlav"Not read anything in this thread, but I do have to say, I am extremely concerned that this was only a 1 game ban.
I understand all the mitigating evidence. Especially the fact that he was send from the field in the first half (which when we see people staying on the field and getting 2-3 game bans quite regularly shows that being sent off is actually worse than a 2-3 game ban). But that was clearly worth more than 1 game. I thought 2 games would have been acceptable.
From a player welfare point of view it does not look great. I can see that it is small margins from being a good tackle, and it isn't like he is dropping someone on their neck, but he did hit him high and with a flying arm.
From a club view I am obviously happy, but not sure I agree with it from the sports point of view.'" further picture doing the rounds on FB shows a clear elbow to a players face that wasn't seen by the official before he was sent off yes from a players welfare it doesn't look good at all
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| Quote ="snowie"why would I want to support a bigger club, you don't get it do you, I was born half a mile from Wakefield's ground, I've lived in Wakefield area all my life its not all about success you are what you are I could of been a fev fan but chose to support Wakefield maybe because my father did, I played for the colts back in the seventies breaking my ankle and missing the 79 final to go watch my team, after all those years we end up have one of the best seasons in the cup and league after being at the bottom for so long, would I swap no way [uI'll go down with the sinking ship[/u thank you with my head held high proud that I stood by my club and not move just for glory'"
You just said you were quitting the sport as it's corrupt! Now you're going down with the "sinking ship." I get that a big club getting a fair decision is creating an emotional reaction in you, but you really should take a step back and look at what you're typing.
FWIW, I've watched Wigan win nine Challenge cups, you should give us a try. Come to Donny to watch Lockers and co. compete in a big match.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"I just think the RFL are simply inviting criticism with the way they do things. Why bother announcing a Grade C which carries 2-3 games if they are then going to consider these "mitigating factors." Why not consider the factors and then decide on a Grade? At least that way they won't be seen to be backing down and changing their minds. They really don't help themselves at all.
The backlash is inevitable but I can assure people this isn't anything to do with me being a Saints fan. I just don't understand their methods and I feel they could avoid a lot of the criticism by doing things differently.'" I agree totally on what your saying, I wasn't there to watch it and from what I see is a flying arm that was swung out while being unbalanced and catching him squarely across the neck, while he might not wanted to do this he certainly didn't want him passing him and made the lunge, you can't grade something then degrade at a later date as you've already given the grade
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| Quote ="Suzy Banyon"You just said you were quitting the sport as it's corrupt! Now you're going down with the "sinking ship." I get that a big club getting a fair decision is creating an emotional reaction in you, but you really should take a step back and look at what you're typing.
FWIW, I've watched Wigan win nine Challenge cups, you should give us a try. Come to Donny to watch Lockers and co. compete in a big match.'" quitting the sport getting that way yes, as going down with a sinking ship well the clubs been bailing out now for years, if you saw whaat we have to put up with you'd find your self feeling the same way
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