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| As a wigan fan there is a lot of moaning about nothing in this thread. Like the earlier poster said Huddersfield is close enough to equidistant. Stop winging about venues who cares.
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| lets play in london.......same distance for both of us and it will be a neutral venue.......no yorks or lancs advantage
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| I prefer to play it in Catalan in July for the semi
How far is it for Wigan to get to Manchester Airport compared to us getting to Manchester Airport?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Wigan fans appear so stupid on here'"
Ah. Another lost argument by a visitor to this board.
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| Quote ="pie.warrior"exactly.....we have travelled "over the border" 9 times in the last 11 meetings with the Yorkshire team only venturing in lancs twice......where is the neutral split in that.....'"
You have just confirmed exactly what I said in the sentence you highlighted. Congratualtions on that.
The comment wasn't that Wigan fans were stupid full stop, but that Wigan fans were stupid to not understand the difference between "neutral" and over the border. Your response been we have gone to Yorkshire 9 times out of 11, how is that fair. Well done.
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| yorkshire team playing in yorkshire against a lancs team is hardly a neutral venue even if it is on the border..........you cant have neutral if it involves teams from either side of the great divide and the match is played in either county....
What bit don't you understand....
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| we have had home county advantage twice in 11 meetings and had to play in the enemies domain 9 times......so on those stats it should be in Lancs........but we know the RFL will again play it in Yorkshire.
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| Quote ="pie.warrior"we have had home county advantage twice in 11 meetings and had to play in the enemies domain 9 times......so on those stats it should be in Lancs........but we know the RFL will again play it in Yorkshire.'"
Osdal to push a bit of revenue their way?
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| Quote ="pie.warrior"we have had home county advantage twice in 11 meetings and had to play in the enemies domain 9 times......so on those stats it should be in Lancs........but we know the RFL will again play it in Yorkshire.'"
Nice bit of spin on complete ballacks figures there. You have played a Yorkshire team 9 times in a semi final in Yorkshire since 1960. In that same period you have played a Yorkshire team 3 times in Lancashire (usually a near as possible to you).
Of the 9 times played in Yorkshire 4 of those 9 games were against Hull KR, and were played in Leeds/Bradford/Huddersfield. You really saying Hull KR had an advantage over you. One of the other games was against York, again played in Leeds.
It's kind of a different picture to the one your paint in reality. Even when you played London in the Semi Final it was played in Huddersfield. I bet non of you were complaining then.
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| Yawn....................................
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| To be fair to the RFL if they couldn't play it in Lancashire or Yorkshire to make it truely neutral we'd be pretty screwed.
Huddersfield is fine but Doncaster wouldn't be. How big is Rochdales ground? That would seem somewhere in the middle of both clubs.
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"2010 Semi Final: Saints vs Leeds, Galpharm
2008 Semi Final: Saints vs Leeds, Galpharm
2003 Semi Final: Saints vs Leeds, Galpharm
2001 Semi Final: Saints vs Leeds, DW
So there have been 4 Semi Finals involving Leeds and Lancashire teams [Well, saints in SL, and 75% have been played in Yorkshire.'"
You missed this one:
2002 Semi Final: Saints vs Leeds, DW
That now makes it 5 with 60% in Yorkshire and 40% Lancashire which is a fairer split.
With all the discussion about venue choice and location, has anyone factored into account things such as cost and availability of stadiums?
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"To be fair to the RFL if they couldn't play it in Lancashire or Yorkshire to make it truely neutral we'd be pretty screwed.
Huddersfield is fine but Doncaster wouldn't be. How big is Rochdales ground? That would seem somewhere in the middle of both clubs.'"
Spot on..... Play it in Greater Manchester.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Spot on..... Play it in Greater Manchester.'"
Just play it in Manchester. Between the two clubs.
Double-header at COM would get my vote to be honest.
Failing that, play them at the newst RL stadiums. Many Wigan and Leeds fans will not have been to Langtree park yet and that will sell a few extra tickets. Same for Warrington v Hudds at Salford.
With the BBC doing the games, will they want it close to media city?
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| Quote ="[Gareth"When was the last time Leeds played a CC Semi-Final at a ground in Lancashire?'"
vs Lancashire opposition:
2002, 2001, 1994, 1993.
As with Wigan, Leeds have played a majority of semis vs Lancashire opposition in the opposition's county: ten out of the past 15 occasions in fact (i.e. before the recent three in Huddersfield vs St Helens it was ten out of 12).
Presumably this arises due to Central Park and Headingley being the predominant semi final venues for decades.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"So typical Wigan fan you are suggesting it should be played in your back yard, as you are too scared to play in a neutral environment?
Where in Lancashire, considering I have given you the geographical mileage, other than Boundary Park, is a better "neutral" venue than the Galpharm?
Playing at any other Lancashire venue is akin to Leeds playing at Elland Road or Odsal. That's not neutral.'"
Scared A neutral environment suits us fine but the sad thing is we dont often get it. The positive is we usually win anyway but thats not the point.
I would quite happily play Leeds at Headingly/Elland road or even red hall's gardens and be confident of winning.
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| Well if it was to be a neutral venue then why not look to expand into areas the game isnt particularly strong. Why not play one game in Wrexham as it might give Welsh RL a boost and maybe somewhere in Scotland.
Both of those would involve a bit of trekking but part of the magic of the cup in my opinion is travelling to unusual locations beyond the typical heartlands of Wigan, Saints, Leeds, Bradford, Warrington etc.
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| Quote ="Gotcha" Even when you played London in the Semi Final it was played in Huddersfield. I bet non of you were complaining then.'"
Or when the semi against Catalans was at Warrington...
Can't believe the amount of bellyaching on this thread when (as far as I know anyway) the venues haven't even been officially announced All we have from what I can see is one fan saying they've HEARD it might be...
If the venues have been announced and I've missed it, anyone got a link?
The fact is, any venue apart from the DW and Headingley (and perhaps Elland Road) are neutral venues. Neither side gets any extra advantage if the venue is indeed Huddersfield, or Leigh, or Salford or Warrington etc etc
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Nice bit of spin on complete ballacks figures there. You have played a Yorkshire team 9 times in a semi final in Yorkshire since 1960. In that same period you have played a Yorkshire team 3 times in Lancashire (usually a near as possible to you).
Of the 9 times played in Yorkshire 4 of those 9 games were against Hull KR, and were played in Leeds/Bradford/Huddersfield. You really saying Hull KR had an advantage over you. One of the other games was against York, again played in Leeds.
It's kind of a different picture to the one your paint in reality. Even when you played London in the Semi Final it was played in Huddersfield. I bet non of you were complaining then.'"
Gotcha this can be solved in a flash,spin a coin and the winner has home advantage.
Hands up on these forums those who agree with that,I have a funny feeling it is going to go quiete on the Yorkshire side of the hill. Good night Gotcha, by the way you must learn to spell ballacks right.
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| Quote ="stillinthepast"Gotcha this can be solved in a flash,spin a coin and the winner has home advantage.
Hands up on these forums those who agree with that,I have a funny feeling it is going to go quiete on the Yorkshire side of the hill. Good night Gotcha, by the way you must learn to spell ballacks right.'"
Or maybe even quiet.
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| Personally I think Salford's ground would be ideal. 25-30 mins for us and about 40 mins for Leeds straight down the m62.
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| I agree Salford's ground would be a good idea, but if it does get used, its more likely that it will be for Warrington v Huddersfield, where the demand for tickets will be less.
Wigan v Leeds will be at Huddersfield IMHO.
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| Quote ="AncientAndLoyal":3sj905n4[u:3sj905n4Well if it was to be a neutral venue then why not look to expand into areas the game isnt particularly strong. Why not play one game in Wrexham as it might give Welsh RL a boost and maybe somewhere in Scotland[/u:3sj905n4
What a fantastically fresh unheard of idea you have there, you think it will work??
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| well it has more meaning than the magic weekend as the winner gets to go to wembley for the final....
personally I want to play at Huddersfield as we have never lost a CC semi to Leeds when playing there
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| Quote ="AncientAndLoyal"Well if it was to be a neutral venue then why not look to expand into areas the game isnt particularly strong. Why not play one game in Wrexham as it might give Welsh RL a boost [u[size=150and maybe somewhere in Scotland.[/size[/u
Both of those would involve a bit of trekking but part of the magic of the cup in my opinion is travelling to unusual locations beyond the typical heartlands of Wigan, Saints, Leeds, Bradford, Warrington etc.'"
The magic of the cup semi-final is another [u [size=150away[/size[/u day in the heartlands with ma Wigan pals . So you can get that idea oot o' yer heid right away .
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