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| If Brough had been fit he'd have been in ahead of Chase. If he carries on like he did pre-injury he'd be in my side at 6 with Dureau at 7 (although if he misses the end of the year, insert Chase)
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| Why are people picking Morley?
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| Quote ="Wire_85"It is impressive to be well not at your best and be top.
Looking forward to seeing Wire peak in the next few months.'"
I think Wire have already peaked. I don't think they will play any better than they did against saints or Wigan.
They might still win the GF because the other teams may not reach the same standards but I don't think wire will improve from here. Thats not a dig, I just can't see them getting any better than winning by 80 for a few weeks along with beating some of the top teams earlier in the season.
IF we can improve (clearly we have plenty of room for improvement) then I can't see anything other than us finishing top and playing wire in the final.
Wire have played much better than last year but are no further up the ladder and have the same amount of points. The extra points difference means nothing because they have no more points than last year.
Wigan have been poor compared to last year and have lost 3 games which is the same as this time last year, but we have drawn 3 games so we have 3 less points. Not bad considering how poor we have been in comparison at times.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"I think Wire have already peaked. I don't think they will play any better than they did against saints or Wigan.
They might still win the GF because the other teams may not reach the same standards but I don't think wire will improve from here. Thats not a dig, I just can't see them getting any better than winning by 80 for a few weeks along with beating some of the top teams earlier in the season.
IF we can improve (clearly we have plenty of room for improvement) then I can't see anything other than us finishing top and playing wire in the final.
Wire have played much better than last year but are no further up the ladder and have the same amount of points. The extra points difference means nothing because they have no more points than last year.
Wigan have been poor compared to last year and have lost 3 games which is the same as this time last year, but we have drawn 3 games so we have 3 less points. Not bad considering how poor we have been in comparison at times.'"
You might be in for a nice little shock
Our backline of Hodgson, King, Atkins, Bridge and Joel is the best in the league and its only recently they have been able to all play together, if injuries stay away they are hard to stop.
Plus Hodgson's linking with the team gets better with every game plus Myler is really stepping up lately since Brier's has been out.
Its not the 80 odd points where I think we can improve its the against the big teams where we keep up the level of play longer like against Saints and Hudds great starts but didn't keep it up, Wigan game was awhile ago now but remember it being a very good defence effort.
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| when we have these types of threads, can we ban wire fans please? would be nice to chat rugby league without retards ruining it
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| Hope your not calling me a retard.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Hope your not calling me a retard.'"
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| I bigged up some of the Wigan players in fact the only players i've disagreed with are Chase and Welham
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Oh, the irony...'"
Why is that?
And why are you two trying to ruin a good thread?
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| Quote ="Wire_85"You might be in for a nice little shock
Our backline of Hodgson, King, Atkins, Bridge and Joel is the best in the league and its only recently they have been able to all play together, if injuries stay away they are hard to stop.
Plus Hodgson's linking with the team gets better with every game plus Myler is really stepping up lately since Brier's has been out.
Its not the 80 odd points where I think we can improve its the against the big teams where we keep up the level of play longer like against Saints and Hudds great starts but didn't keep it up, Wigan game was awhile ago now but remember it being a very good defence effort.'"
Our backline is just as good, they proved it last season. See the GF. Sensational. But they have not even got out second gear in most games this year. When they do we will also be hard to stop. We are a team clearly trying to peak at the right time. Our backline also matched the St George backline in the WCC, they are the best club backline in the world.
Against the best teams you can't play like that for 80 mins, it is just not possible. We would have won 40-0 in the GF had we kept up our intensity from the first 25mins. What Warrington could do better is not let the teams back in to the game too much. They are so used to being in control that when saints and hudds came back at them they didn't look sure how to respond. They pulled through but warrington still don't have the play-off experience. They can play knock-out rugby... no doubt about that, they are the current holders of the cup, but play-off rugby is different because you need 3-4 maybe even 5 (including the last week of the regular season) big performances in a row. Wire don't have the experience of doing that in a high pressure situation.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Why is that?
And why are you two trying to ruin a good thread?
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Firstly, it's "you're", not "your".
Secondly, your Warrington chums ruined this thread with ridiculous dream team picks. So tootle off back to the Wire board please.
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| I think our backline from 1-5 in comparison to Wires is probably a touch behind at the minute but could be as strong if not better when the play offs come round. The reason I say that is because we've got a right centre/wing combo still getting to know each other and as well as he's done Richards is still getting back from a very serious injury.
Wires backline has been exceptional this year and whichever way you look at it they'll be tough to stop. I've said it all season though that if anybody does stop them it will be us and us only.
There's nothing to choose between the 2 sides.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Our backline is just as good, they proved it last season. See the GF. Sensational. But they have not even got out second gear in most games this year. When they do we will also be hard to stop. We are a team clearly trying to peak at the right time. Our backline also matched the St George backline in the WCC, they are the best club backline in the world.
Against the best teams you can't play like that for 80 mins, it is just not possible. We would have won 40-0 in the GF had we kept up our intensity from the first 25mins. What Warrington could do better is not let the teams back in to the game too much. They are so used to being in control that when saints and hudds came back at them they didn't look sure how to respond. They pulled through but warrington still don't have the play-off experience. They can play knock-out rugby... no doubt about that, they are the current holders of the cup, but play-off rugby is different because you need 3-4 maybe even 5 (including the last week of the regular season) big performances in a row. Wire don't have the experience of doing that in a high pressure situation.'"
Thats what a mean keep it up in defence and attack.
Gleeson was awesome for you in that GF all IMO etc but attack wise I think ours is alot better yours may shade it defence wise, the playoff thing is just something we are just going to have to wait and see how we go.
My dream team this season would be a mix of Wire/Wigan but with Roby and TP on it thats for sure.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Firstly, it's "you're", not "your".
Secondly, your Warrington chums ruined this thread with ridiculous dream team picks. So tootle off back to the Wire board please.'"
Thanks.
But no and try and keep it on topic please.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Thats what a mean keep it up in defence and attack.
Gleeson was awesome for you in that GF all IMO etc but attack wise I think ours is alot better yours may shade it defence wise, the playoff thing is just something we are just going to have to wait and see how we go.
My dream team this season would be a mix of Wire/Wigan but with Roby and TP on it thats for sure.'"
At least its a more mixed view than Yed 8 wire players is going a little too far.
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| If Myler carries on and Morley played like last year could have been worse
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| Anybody else think it's a little weird that hardly any huddersfield players get a mention considering how well they have done this year? Not criticising anyone's picks by the way because i wouldn't put any of their players in either. I guess it just shows they are a well drilled unit who play well as a team without the standout stars.
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"Anybody else think it's a little weird that hardly any huddersfield players get a mention considering how well they have done this year? Not criticising anyone's picks by the way because i wouldn't put any of their players in either. I guess it just shows they are a well drilled unit who play well as a team without the standout stars.'"
So you haven't noticed that they've had a distinct dip in form since they lost Danny Brough then? Think he'd have been a definite shout for the dream team 7 shirt if he hadn't picked up that injury
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"Anybody else think it's a little weird that hardly any huddersfield players get a mention considering how well they have done this year? Not criticising anyone's picks by the way because i wouldn't put any of their players in either. I guess it just shows they are a well drilled unit who play well as a team without the standout stars.'"
Brough might be a little unlucky to be overlooked - Dureau has grabbed headlines this year, but Brough was a shoe in for England until his injury.
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| Brough is a good player, but would not get in this year's dream team. Dureau is a cert for the 7 jersey unless his recent injury rules him out for a long while.
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| They lost their best back and best forward in Brough and LOD, Brough is due back either this or next week LOD is already back, they'll pick up again for the playoffs.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"They lost their best back and best forward in Brough and LOD, Brough is due back either this or next week LOD is already back, they'll pick up again for the playoffs.'"
Can't say I've been that impressed with O' Donnell from what I've seen of him for Hudds. Doesn't look anywhere near as aggressive and intimidating as he did in the NRL. He's had a few niggly injuries that have had him in and out of the side though to be fair
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| Quote ="dirtbag83"Can't say I've been that impressed with O' Donnell from what I've seen of him for Hudds. Doesn't look anywhere near as aggressive and intimidating as he did in the NRL. He's had a few niggly injuries that have had him in and out of the side though to be fair'"
Agreed. The only thing worth noting that he's done this season is get owned by Ryan Bailey. It takes something special for that to happen. Maybe SL could create a new team called the 'Super League Nightmare Team' with a 1-13 of players who've been owned by Bailey and O'Donnell can keep himself company in that.
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