hes not added me to his list, probably cos my display pic shows me in a warriors shirt.

well he can go **** himself, the fat lazy sod.

Look at Fridays stats on the previous page and then quantify your remark.

Or maybe the other three are thin and bone idle?

im on ashley kleins friend list and ive never met him.
but ive chatted to him on facebook a couple of times, mostly about american football and not rugby league. Nobody wants to talk about work, so i leave that side out.

theres nowt wrong with adding strangers imo...thats what social networkings about........making new friends.

the bit you highlighted is my personal opinion on him and no amount of one off stats will change my mind until he performs consistently and shows hes fit and does some work in the game regularly.

other 3? what it doesnt tell you is how long they were on the pitch.

But they are not one off stats as I have posted before.
Go to the Superleague site and do your own reasearch

[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2009&hp1=2075&hs2=2009&hp2=273&stat=tries&season=2009[/url

im not a big believer in stats.........you can do anything with a set of stats.

who was it who said " there are statistics, statistics and damn lies" ?

Then why does EVERY club have a stats man at the games.

Wigan have two, who are present at all first team and reserve team matches.
Why do all teams PURCHASE the stats from OPTA.

Maybe they should employ a few one eye speccies who will tell them he's shtye or he's brilliant.

Do you have any idea how lame it is trying to be an online friend of a player?

exactly - I am embarrassed by it especially now the fans are having a whine about it

I'll volunteer for that !!!!!!!!

Mark Twain.

At the moment Piggy's given the impression that he doesn't want to be here.

He's a good player, but not that incredible that if he didn't want to be her he'd still be good enough.

For me he can leave tomorrow, and I'd happily take on a good half in his place.

Agreed. I hate to say "I told you so" but I posted before he arrived that anyone expecting a world beater was in for a disappointment. He is the archteypal journeyman Aussie.

What did I tell you Brian!



Best thing that can happen for Riddell is for Pryce to get in and then they can all start having a go at him!

PS

Mathers wasn't too bad on Friday was he!

Or a coach who can use his own eyes instead of stats to pick a team? People continually spout stats on here, which make average players with average performances appear to be as good as the top players. Watch the game, and see which players are performing, and if it is with one eye, then so be it. That is what makes being a speccie worthwhile.

I know there's a phrase "lies, damn lies and statistics", but there's another phrase: "statistics don't lie".

These stats indicate that, while Riddell was not a stand-out hooker on Friday night, he wasn't off the pace compared to the other hookers. If anything, his contribution was reasonably impressive.

I can't help wondering, if yet again - Pat Richards and Craig Smith spring to mind - some Wigan fans are expecting too much too soon.

Not me. I said he was average before we signed him and those stats back this up. If stats are all you go by he is better than MH, sames as MM and worse than JC. Big deal. That's hardly the cream of the crop, is it? He is miles behind a host of others such as Randall, 2 at Saints and Leeds, Berrigan, etc.

His last season at Para saw him play 20 mins at the start then get replaced at hooker for the rest of the game by a rookie. He had to be content with a second 20 min spell in the second row. Says it all really IMO. Never mind, only another 3 and a half season then he will move on.....

This is the point. Riddel was never a world beater. He is doing what you can fairly expect of him, average showings. His fitness has always been an issue also.

But didn't Higham replace Jon Clarke on Friday and then come back at loose forward. That's why Clarkes stats were slightly better, he was on the pitch longer.
If you compare Riddells season stats with those of Diskin they are pretty favourable. I don't think he's been as poor as many on here have expressed, maybe people have expected too much, but I do think he's been an improvement on Higham, which is what we wanted.

Overall are you happy with Riddell or are you a little disappointed?

And I don't want a politicians answer

Unlucky



Overall yes I'm happy with his performances because it's better than what we had.
But I do think there is room for improvement, and I believe it will happen.

Back in his St George days he had a great running game. Sadly, this seems to have gone for good. Add this to the fact that he is quota when we have both TL and MM and it doesn't look too good a signing to me.

For my part, I'm disappointed. However, I'd give him a little longer before writing him off.

One thing that's definitely sharpened the focus on him is the emergence of Tommy L as a quality hooker. Suddenly we have three decent 9s in the squad, which frankly is one too many.

does seem a bit pointless at times. the guy's here till the end of the season at least. let's cast judgment then.

He is better than what had but that isn't saying much.

He is playing sub-standard and to level that I wouldn't call acceptable, but hopefully he'll turn that around before the end of the season.

Luckily, we've had McIlorum who has been playing well.