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| Leigh & Sheffield for the venues I reckon.
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| Leeds v Saints at Galpharm
Wire v Catalans at Widnes.
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| Saints v Leeds at either Wire or DW and Catalan v Wire in France.
Let's get a CC game over there..
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| There are various possibilities here.
Wire could get beaten by the Cats, and we could all have a good laugh at them, as they had a good laugh at us in 2008. But that would mean the Cats getting to Wembley, and gifting the Cup to either Leeds or Saints. So, loathe though I am to want Wire there a second year on the trot, I think it would be a better final.
As for the other draw, it could obviously go either way. It's one of those 'who do you hate least' scenarios - and that can change from week to week. Hetherington, Lee Smith, Keith Senior et al are the w****rs of the moment, so possibly I'd rather it was Saints. But knowing Saints, they'll probably have annoyed us in some way before the semis. Granted there's no Sean Long any more, so that cuts down the chances, but Potter is a whinger and an excuse-maker, so he's a potential fly-in-the-ointment for them, and of course Eddie and Stevo could scupper their chances of staying in our good gooks if they keep creaming the ceiling every time Saints play.
At the end of the day, I think a Saints v Wire final would be very interesting. It would be Wire's best ever chance to finally dispose of yesterday's heroes on a world stage. But if they take it, that means Wire have won two on the trot! Bloody hell, there really is no way to win.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Leeds v Warrington, Leeds to take the trophy. I can't believe Les Catalans have got this far despite being absolutely dire. Mind they've had fairly easy opposition in Salford, Crusaders and Barrow.'"
Barrow played saints, Catalan played batley.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"But knowing Saints, they'll probably have annoyed us in some way before the semis. '"
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| Quote ="Cruncher"There are various possibilities here.
Wire could get beaten by the Cats, and we could all have a good laugh at them, as they had a good laugh at us in 2008. But that would mean the Cats getting to Wembley, and gifting the Cup to either Leeds or Saints. So, loathe though I am to want Wire there a second year on the trot, I think it would be a better final.
As for the other draw, it could obviously go either way. It's one of those 'who do you hate least' scenarios - and that can change from week to week. Hetherington, Lee Smith, Keith Senior et al are the w****rs of the moment, so possibly I'd rather it was Saints. But knowing Saints, they'll probably have annoyed us in some way before the semis. Granted there's no Sean Long any more, so that cuts down the chances, but Potter is a whinger and an excuse-maker, so he's a potential fly-in-the-ointment for them, and of course Eddie and Stevo could scupper their chances of staying in our good gooks if they keep creaming the ceiling every time Saints play.
At the end of the day, I think a Saints v Wire final would be very interesting. It would be Wire's best ever chance to finally dispose of yesterday's heroes on a world stage. But if they take it, that means Wire have won two on the trot! Bloody hell, there really is no way to win.'"
I'm with you, it's basically a no win situation. I'd love Catalans to win it but they just aren't capeable of winning two high pressure games in the comp. Maybe the semi, but I'd guess they'd fall badly in the final.
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| Saints have had the easiest path to the semi.
Toulouse, Quins and Barrow.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"
At the end of the day, I think a Saints v Wire final would be very interesting. It would be Wire's best ever chance to finally dispose of yesterday's heroes on a world stage. But if they take it, that means Wire have won two on the trot! Bloody hell, there really is no way to win.'"
I want a Saints Wire final to be honest, I think it'd be a great game, and theres the added 'can Wire finally beat Saints' I think it'd be a great final, and also has the added bonus of watching Wire concentrate on the cup, which could distract them from the league. Also Saints don't have the squad to win the double imo, so that final could be a huge advantage to me.
As for who wins I don't really care, but I think I'd rather anyone but Wire won, just because I can't be ar@ed with the Wire fans.
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| I might put some money now on Wire to win the cup. I feel it will be a Saints v Wire final and as Batesy said, I think Wire will finally break the hoodoo.
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| Quote ="Batesy"I want a Saints Wire final to be honest, I think it'd be a great game, and theres the added 'can Wire finally beat Saints' I think it'd be a great final, and also has the added bonus of watching Wire concentrate on the cup, which could distract them from the league. Also Saints don't have the squad to win the double imo, so that final could be a huge advantage to me.
As for who wins I don't really care, but I think I'd rather anyone but Wire won, just because I can't be ar@ed with the Wire fans.'"
I agree.Saints always have and always will be our greatest rivals but like it or not they are a big club and will always be there or there abouts so its slightly easier to deal with. Wire who come on lets be honest aren't really a big club (aren't they behind Widnes in terms of honours?) and have the most irritating fans I have ever come across.
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| Quote ="Smalls"I agree.Saints always have and always will be our greatest rivals but like it or not they are a big club and will always be there or there abouts so its slightly easier to deal with. Wire on the other hand who lets be honest aren't really a big club (aren't they behind Widnes in terms of honours?) =#FF0000and have the most irritating fans I have ever come across.'"
Mostly because the majority of them haven't reached puberty
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| Quote ="Smalls"I agree.Saints always have and always will be our greatest rivals but like it or not they are a big club and will always be there or there abouts so its slightly easier to deal with. Wire who come on lets be honest aren't really a big club (aren't they behind Widnes in terms of honours?) and have the most irritating fans I have ever come across.'"
Some truths spoken here.
Saints winning it might be the lesser of all evils. They're now so used to winning things that they've got a bit blase. At last year's Grand Final, few of the ones near us really seemed that bothered, and were chatting and drinking all the way through the game. They didn't like losing, obviously, but there was none of the fanatical support you used to see in the early 2000s. Pretty like us in the mid-90s, come to think of it.
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| Quote ="Smalls"I agree.Saints always have and always will be our greatest rivals but like it or not they are a big club and will always be there or there abouts so its slightly easier to deal with. Wire who come on lets be honest aren't really a big club (aren't they behind Widnes in terms of honours?) and have the most irritating fans I have ever come across.'"
Spot on, i couldnt have said it better myself
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| I don't want Saints to win and I don't want wire to win it, I also want a massive final.
Leeds to beat Warrington.
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| well hat your all forgeting is that whem the semi comes around saints will have most of our injured players back, except soliola and wilkin
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| Quote ="adamfairclough"well hat your all forgeting is that whem the semi comes around saints will have most of our injured players back, except soliola and wilkin'"
Potentially. Or we might have even more out!
I think Wilkin should be back by then anyway:
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| Leeds - 3 times champs - must be the biggest threat in the play offs, so it would be best if they are sidetracked by the cup final.
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| Quote ="adamfairclough"well hat your all forgeting is that whem the semi comes around saints will have most of our injured players back, except soliola and wilkin'"
How do you know that? Saints might have collapsed in a heap of old age by then and be in a position. It's so far off no one knows.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"There are various possibilities here.
Wire could get beaten by the Cats, and we could all have a good laugh at them, as they had a good laugh at us in 2008. But that would mean the Cats getting to Wembley, and gifting the Cup to either Leeds or Saints. So, loathe though I am to want Wire there a second year on the trot, I think it would be a better final.
As for the other draw, it could obviously go either way. It's one of those 'who do you hate least' scenarios - and that can change from week to week. Hetherington, Lee Smith, Keith Senior et al are the w****rs of the moment, so possibly I'd rather it was Saints. But knowing Saints, they'll probably have annoyed us in some way before the semis. Granted there's no Sean Long any more, so that cuts down the chances, but Potter is a whinger and an excuse-maker, so he's a potential fly-in-the-ointment for them, and of course Eddie and Stevo could scupper their chances of staying in our good gooks if they keep creaming the ceiling every time Saints play.
At the end of the day, I think a Saints v Wire final would be very interesting. It would be Wire's best ever chance to finally dispose of yesterday's heroes on a world stage. But if they take it, that means Wire have won two on the trot! Bloody hell, there really is no way to win.'"
Even as a Wire fan I can raise a rather large smile at that assessmemt.... There really isn't many positives for you with this draw is there?
Trying to be as impartial as possible, I think even the most anti-Wire person would agree that a Wire v Leeds/Saints final would provide the best spectacle for RL in regards to wanting to impress a watching national, and possibly international audience....A decent crowd, coupled with an entertaining, probably close match, which would be much needed after the last few finals, which have been a bit one-sided and lacklustre, might finally liven up a competition which is dying on its ar$e.
Catalans shouldn't be discounted though. As many have already pointed out, there is a long time before the semi's, and injuries and form can change things drastically before then.
As a Wire fan, I'll be particularly interested in how Tony Smith treats the next few weeks in the build up to this....Last year he undoubtedly aimed at the Cup, sacrificing whatever small chance we had of making the play-offs in doing so. I'll be curious to see if he believes we have the squad to go 100% at both competitions, especially as the League & the Play-offs look as wide open as they have ever done.
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| would love a saints v wire final would be great to watch, but Leeds v Wire for me with Leeds winning by 10 to 20 points.
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| Quote ="Smalls"I agree.Saints always have and always will be our greatest rivals but like it or not they are a big club and will always be there or there abouts so its slightly easier to deal with. Wire who come on lets be honest aren't really a big club (aren't they behind Widnes in terms of honours?) and have =#FF0040the most irritating fans I have ever come across.'"
It's so true. 'Er indoors (Wire born and bred) had already got her and the kids' Wembley tickets booked but still spent a good ten minutes dancing round the room when they failed to draw Saints or Leeds. I'm quite glad I'll be in the 'Stan for the semis and final - last year was bad enough but if they win 2 in a row she'll never shut up.
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"I might put some money now on Wire to win the cup. I feel it will be a Saints v Wire final and as Batesy said, I think Wire will finally break the hoodoo.'"
This. Unfortunately..
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| Quote ="Cruncher"There are various possibilities here.
Wire could get beaten by the Cats, and we could all have a good laugh at them, as they had a good laugh at us in 2008. But that would mean the Cats getting to Wembley, and gifting the Cup to either Leeds or Saints. So, loathe though I am to want Wire there a second year on the trot, I think it would be a better final.
As for the other draw, it could obviously go either way. It's one of those 'who do you hate least' scenarios - and that can change from week to week. Hetherington, Lee Smith, Keith Senior et al are the w****rs of the moment, so possibly I'd rather it was Saints. But knowing Saints, they'll probably have annoyed us in some way before the semis. Granted there's no Sean Long any more, so that cuts down the chances, but Potter is a whinger and an excuse-maker, so he's a potential fly-in-the-ointment for them, and of course Eddie and Stevo could scupper their chances of staying in our good gooks if they keep creaming the ceiling every time Saints play.
At the end of the day, I think a Saints v Wire final would be very interesting. It would be Wire's best ever chance to finally dispose of yesterday's heroes on a world stage. But if they take it, that means Wire have won two on the trot! [size=150Bloody hell, there really is no way to win[/size.'"
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| I don't care who wins the final as long as it's Leeds v Catalan Dragons
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