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| Wigan fans need to remember it's a showpiece final and anything can happen...
Especially against a Leeds team on their day.
Anyway, BRING THEM ON!
WEEEEEEEEEEEEMLEEEEEEEEEY!
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| A poor game and the wrong result.
But the right result for RL HQ.
Lucky Leeds once again.
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| I know anything can happen in a final, but im feeling confident of being able to turn them over in style
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| Cas deserved it but good teams grind out results when they're not playing well.
It's a final, and anything can happen, but if we turn up and perform to our ability we'll win as, when on form we're better in all facets of the game.
If we win, it'll have been some run. Beating Bradford, Wire, Saints and Leeds would be incredible.
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| Quote ="shambawangy"I know anything can happen in a final, but im feeling confident of being able to turn them over in style'"
If it had been Cas, there might just have been a possibility of us doing a 1998 style switch-off.
There won't be with Leeds.
But as others have said, we'll need kid gloves around McGuire because he's polished those acting skills of his up to a fine art.
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| Some of the comments on here smack of bittnerness, and i can't understand why as it's not llike leeds have anything over you.
Mcguire was taken high, like it or not, it was a penalty.
Leeds had more chances to score throughout the game, than cas. Only an outstanding individual long distance try from chase did it. Leeds had 2 disallowed, one which was 50/50 and had numerous other chances which a combination of great scrambling defence from cas and poor leeds composure saw them not score.
Leeds played below par and cas played as well as they could, but on the day the teams were even.
So all this cas were unlucky/robbed/better team on the day doesn't really wash.
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| Quote ="Panda Antics"Cas deserved it but good teams grind out results when they're not playing well.
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Yeah, imagine if wigan had won that game like that out there today. It'd have been a prime example of how the 'untouchables' of wigan grind out incredible results without even playing well.
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| I said to the missus with 15 to go that if Cas keep their discipline they'll win the game, they didn't - McGoldrick gave away 2 penalties and they force a pass that went forward and Leeds score from the next set.
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| Quote ="marcel"Some of the comments on here smack of bittnerness, and i can't understand why as it's not llike leeds have anything over you.
Mcguire was taken high, like it or not, it was a penalty.
Leeds had more chances to score throughout the game, than cas. Only an outstanding individual long distance try from chase did it. Leeds had 2 disallowed, one which was 50/50 and had numerous other chances which a combination of great scrambling defence from cas and poor leeds composure saw them not score.
Leeds played below par and cas played as well as they could, but on the day the teams were even.
So all this cas were unlucky/robbed/better team on the day doesn't really wash.'"
Cas were the better team for longer periods of the game than Leeds were. Didn't think either team were particularly good though and if Leeds play like that in the final they will lose by 30+
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| Quote ="marcel"Some of the comments on here smack of bittnerness, and i can't understand why as it's not llike leeds have anything over you.
Mcguire was taken high, like it or not, it was a penalty.
Leeds had more chances to score throughout the game, than cas. Only an outstanding individual long distance try from chase did it. Leeds had 2 disallowed, one which was 50/50 and had numerous other chances which a combination of great scrambling defence from cas and poor leeds composure saw them not score.
Leeds played below par and cas played as well as they could, but on the day the teams were even.
So all this cas were unlucky/robbed/better team on the day doesn't really wash.'"
That's my view of the game tbh. Cas worked their socks off and played out of their skins, its a shame all their hard work and determination wasn't rewarded with a victory, but I wouldn't say they were robbed.
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| Cas were their own worst enemies in the last 15 minutes, a few players with a couple of brain cells between them and they'd be on their way to Wembley.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Cas were their own worst enemies in the last 15 minutes, a few players with a couple of brain cells between them and they'd be on their way to Wembley.'"
Agreed, and it was entirely predictable that they'd bottle it.
Cas lost that as much as Leeds won it by inviting so much pressure in the closing stages with tiring bodies giving away reckless penalties.
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| Couldnt help but feel that Cas were hanging on by their fingernails, even at 8-2 up. Rangi should have knocked that drop goal over easy though, his team mates couldnt have set it up better.
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| Cas had their chance when Chase fluffed a DG from in front of the sticks.
Leeds took the chance they were given.
Not a classic of high quality rugby, but thrilling none the less. Some excellent defence from Cas, and the man with the x-factor in Chase. However, they just couldnt close the game out.
Bring on Leeds. If we are going to win the Cup, then beating Bradford, Warrington, Saints and Leeds is the way to do it.
Cant wait.
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| Chase should have run the ball instead of dropping it he would have sucked at least 3-4 players in to him. Then Dixon on Orr would have had a much easier drop goal as most of the players would have excpected Chase to be the person taking the drop goal attempt.
FOR example Pat Richards drop goal V Bulls in the play offs when we made the comeback. Barrett forced 3-4 players in and left Richards with an easy attempt. Chase was getting closed down quickly maybe he should have hit it but the setting up was poor.
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| They didn't pass it far enough back, RL teams are awful a drop goals.
Hate to say it but RU teams are an example of how to set up for a drop goal.
It is easier to score from 30m with no pressure than from 10m with players running at you.
And yes, RU teams are probably better because they do it more often but we can learn from it.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"They didn't pass it far enough back, RL teams are awful a drop goals.
Hate to say it but RU teams are an example of how to set up for a drop goal.
It is easier to score from 30m with no pressure than from 10m with players running at you.
And yes, RU teams are probably better because they do it more often but we can learn from it.'"
Yawnion teams probably practice setting up for the drop goal all the time. I sincerely doubt any RL teams devote much training time to it because it's a game situation that comes up pretty rarely and there are far more important aspects of the game, although Stevo would have us believe otherwise
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| Quote ="CM Punk"Cas were the better team for 79 minutes. Gutted for them.'"
You must have watched a different game to me then.
leeds were poor but it was only good Cas defence and some poor leeds finishing and crap kicking game that kept Cas in the game.
Apart from the Chase moment of magic, the big lad that got tackled short and the charge down drop goal break in the last minute I don't think Cas looked like scoring a try
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"You must have watched a different game to me then.
leeds were poor but it was only good Cas defence and some poor leeds finishing and crap kicking game that kept Cas in the game.
Apart from the Chase moment of magic, the big lad that got tackled short and the charge down drop goal break in the last minute I don't think Cas looked like scoring a try'"
So Leeds finished poorly and kicked crap. What does that leave them with to do well?
Running forward to largely no avail?
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| It was a penalty, however I disagree with the concept of 'golden point' in extra time. It should at least be 'golden try'.
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| No doubt it was a penalty, maguire rightfully milked it for all it was worth
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| Quote ="MDW12"Cas were the better team for longer periods of the game than Leeds were. Didn't think either team were particularly good though and if Leeds play like that in the final they will lose by 30+'"
Cas never threatened for large periods of the game, they just had a few good passages of play.
The chase try, being held up just before halftime, and the orr charge down at the end are the only times in the entire game they really threatened.
We could play better than that and still lose by 30+ in the final.
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| Quote ="Panda Antics"If we win, it'll have been some run. Beating Bradford, Wire, Saints and Leeds would be incredible.'"
All away from home.
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| Quote ="rochdale warrior"Pay back time !'"
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| Thought the Wiggin v Stains game was a superb match between two top SL teams in good form....then came Leeds v Cas...This was like watching two pub sides batter each other. The quality of the game was some of the poorest I've seen in a long time. Leeds kicking game was worse than you would see in an under 9's match. The Rangi Chase try was not so much brilliant opportunism as pathetic air-grasping by the clutch of Leeds defenders around him. Webb should have nailed him just before he scored.
Sorry Stains, but you would have made for a better final with a kinder draw. Leeds fans are now dreading yet another humiliation at Wembley. I suppose if Cas had made it then they would have savoured a day in the capital come win or lose. Plus as a Leeds fan I thought the penalty at the end was harsh.
All Leeds fans can do is pray for a miracle
PS. I hate to say this, but with the teams you've beaten to get to the final you really deserve the cup this year.
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