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| Quote ="Warrington Wolf"He will be at the HJ on Friday morning at about 9am for a training session. Pop down and ask him or even better go toe to toe with him. or you could just gob off from behind your keyboard.
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makes no sense, he never said "Morley has never gone toe to toe with me, or wouldnt do" he said has he ever gone toe to toe with some one, which he hasnt. He has always been a head hunter and a swinging arm specialist.
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| Before he left for Aus Morley went toe to toe plenty of times, he was abit of a hothead in his Leeds days, getting sent of for headbutting, and i seem to recall him decking a Saints player ( can't remember his name) and was sent off after 2 minutes. He had a few punch up's in the NRL aswell, since returning to superleague though he has curved his temper, but still gets his tackling all wrong sometimes, something he won't get right now he's in his 30s. Don't make him out to be some sort of coward though because he hasn't gone toe to toe with someone in a while.
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| Quote ="The Punisher"Before he left for Aus Morley went toe to toe plenty of times, he was abit of a hothead in his Leeds days, getting sent of for headbutting, and i seem to recall him decking a Saints player ( can't remember his name) and was sent off after 2 minutes. He had a few punch up's in the NRL aswell, since returning to superleague though he has curved his temper, but still gets his tackling all wrong sometimes, something he won't get right now he's in his 30s. Don't make him out to be some sort of coward though because he hasn't gone toe to toe with someone in a while.'"
never seen him going toe to toe, not here or the NRL. HE was always doing the high shots over there.
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| I think Morley is lucky, the more you see it, the worse it seems, it was a delibrate attack to the head.
Carvell is lucky its only 1 match.
The real problem though is the inconsistency of the panel and their decisions.
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| Quote ="pedro17"never seen him going toe to toe, not here or the NRL. HE was always doing the high shots over there.'"
He must have been toe to toe to get sent off for headbutting and punching.
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| not really, can be in a scrum and headbut and punch as you can be during and after a tackle. Doesnt need someone to retaliate.
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| Quote ="AJ"I think Morley is lucky, the more you see it, the worse it seems, it was a delibrate attack to the head.
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The real problem I have with the Morley one is that he didn't even get a fine and a warning. He got found not guilty! I mean come on Not guilty.............so they're basically saying it was a legal challenge
If thats allowed in the game now I hope we've got Briers and Myler lined up for a few this weekend. I wouldn't normally agree with challenges like that but they've obviously been legalised.
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| Quote ="pedro17"not really, can be in a scrum and headbut and punch as you can be during and after a tackle. Doesnt need someone to retaliate.'"
But they wasn't, i recall the Saints player giving him a dig on the floor, Morley got up and smacked him, knocking him down and giving him a nice split eye in the process.
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| hhmmmm think you'll find that only happened in your dream world
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| Quote ="pedro17"hhmmmm think you'll find that only happened in your dream world'" The game was on sky pal, i'm sure more than a few Leeds fans will remind you.
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| I just read the verdict and they say it wasnt a high tackle....goes to show the RFL are a joke, they said that he could not pull out. So in that case does it mean that you can hit anyone high if you cannot pull out of the tackle?...clueless.
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| Quote ="pedro17"I just read the verdict and they say it wasnt a high tackle....goes to show the RFL are a joke, they said that he could not pull out. So in that case does it mean that you can hit anyone high if you cannot pull out of the tackle?...clueless.'"
so if you are in the process of tackling someone (around the chest say)and they duck when you are already in motion, it is a high tackle?
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| Quote ="wire74"so if you are in the process of tackling someone (around the chest say)and they duck when you are already in motion, it is a high tackle?'"
I've seen players done for just that many times. So yes.
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| Quote ="wire74"so if you are in the process of tackling someone (around the chest say)and they duck when you are already in motion, it is a high tackle?'"
1)he didnt duck
2) was a swinging arm
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| Quote ="Enicomb"I've seen players done for just that many times. So yes.'"
ok then, taking it to an extreme, in your reckoning, if you're tryin to tackle someone around the legs and they trip and you catch their head....high shot!!!!
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| Quote ="{Hogan}"Possibly the most pointless and pathetic reply i have ever seen on any of the RLFANS forums. Please for everyones sanity try harder!'" pointless and pathetic it was one of your fans who seems to think him having a brawl will do him the world of good
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| Wire74
Are you seriously defending Morley here??
The ball was gone, Morley was running along side Sherwin, with his arm straight and out away from his own body. He clattered Sherwin with a cheap shot. I do agree Sherwin ducked into it, abit, but that doesn't excuse Morley. (Unless of course, you happen to be sat in whitehall looking for your spine)
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| Quote ="Batesy"Wire74
Are you seriously defending Morley here??
The ball was gone, Morley was running along side Sherwin, with his arm straight and out away from his own body. He clattered Sherwin with a cheap shot. I do agree Sherwin ducked into it, abit, but that doesn't excuse Morley. (Unless of course, you happen to be sat in whitehall looking for your spine)'"
no not defending it, what i am saying is he was stepped, high shots happen now and again when big blokes get stood up, it was obvious morley was going for a big hit and if he wasn't stepped i think it would of been a fair ball and all hit. he was, and it wasn't, penalty right decision. but the attempted murder charge some are calling for is a bit excessive!!
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| Quote ="the original stevo"pointless and pathetic it was one of your fans who seems to think him having a brawl will do him the world of good'"
On the rugby Field not in some tin pot charity boxing match(great cause by the way so i'm not disrespecting that).
A charity boxing match against Lee Radford(a right hard nut by all accounts) means nothing when it comes down to how tough Fielden is on the field. He's been picked out by Morley in the past couple of seasons and hasn't stood upto him. He needs to do that to get some of his old aura back and if he gets sent off in the meantime I don't mind because it'll give us some benefit long term.
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| Quote ="wire74"so if you are in the process of tackling someone (around the chest say)and they duck when you are already in motion, it is a high tackle?'"
Im confused as to how the panel watched the incident went from
The Panel reviewed an incident which occurred in approximately the 67h minute of the Match. In the Panel’s opinion Morley made contact with the neck and head of an opponent when tackling a Castleford player (Sherwin). The Panel accepted that Morley was committed and entitled to make some contact with his opponent, but that the contact with the head of his opponent was reckless and unnecessary; Morley had the whole body to go at but made contact with the neck and head; and that there was the potential for injury to the Castleford player. In accordance with the RFL’s On Field Sentencing Guidelines, the Panel consider that such offence is a Grade B offence (when tackling or attempting to tackle makes contact with the head or neck of opponent - tried to tackle but reckless about the outcome).
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Player accompanied by Coach, Tony Smith. Player has less than half a second pull out of tackle. Opponent collapsing at point of contact. Contact on chest. Player was committed. No raised arm. Opponent goes down and ducks into it. Player has both arms out. Unable to pull out of tackle. Original contact was with opponent’s chest. No reaction from touch judge who has clear view. Video ref and official indicate not sufficient to put on report although a penalty was awarded.
I think what happened was that the rfl said tony we wont get away without banning 1 of them so which one do you need to play!
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| Quote ="Ian Roberts Closet"Im confused as to how the panel watched the incident went from
The Panel reviewed an incident which occurred in approximately the 67h minute of the Match. In the Panel’s opinion Morley made contact with the neck and head of an opponent when tackling a Castleford player (Sherwin). The Panel accepted that Morley was committed and entitled to make some contact with his opponent, but that the contact with the head of his opponent was reckless and unnecessary; Morley had the whole body to go at but made contact with the neck and head; and that there was the potential for injury to the Castleford player. In accordance with the RFL’s On Field Sentencing Guidelines, the Panel consider that such offence is a Grade B offence (when tackling or attempting to tackle makes contact with the head or neck of opponent - tried to tackle but reckless about the outcome).
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Player accompanied by Coach, Tony Smith. Player has less than half a second pull out of tackle. Opponent collapsing at point of contact. Contact on chest. Player was committed. No raised arm. Opponent goes down and ducks into it. Player has both arms out. Unable to pull out of tackle. Original contact was with opponent’s chest. No reaction from touch judge who has clear view. Video ref and official indicate not sufficient to put on report although a penalty was awarded.
I think what happened was that the rfl said tony we wont get away without banning 1 of them so which one do you need to play!'"
You can see him follow through with his swinging arm upon contact too.
Really odd one, was convinced he'd get a ban.
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| If the reverse had been the case, such the former Cas player Dean Sampson had hit a Wire player and knocked him out cold, then Sampson would have got a ban.
We know that as he very often did, both!
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| Whats the point in appealing a ban? Surely the panel have looked at the decision, seen the evidence and handed out what they believe to be the correct punishment, so i dont understand how a player can appeal and for the panel to look at the exact same footage and come out with a different result
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