Can't wait to have Hock back in the side, can only be good for Wigan

Great to hear he's been keeping himself in good condition, keep it up Gaz!

Looking at our offload stats so far this season it'll be good to have Hock back in the side if only for that. We're well down the list and to me top sides have an ability to keep the ball alive and run teams off their feet.

I'm not saying we aren't a good side and by no means does it rule us out of competing for trophies but in the big games a team that can get some quality offloads away will always create that bit more danger. In our recent game against Wire they had us on the ropes by keeping the ball alive and they nearly ran away from us.

In which case lets never ever let a player leave the club because of what they might do in the future.

is it true garath hock has signed a 5 year deal, iv seen it on another site somewere but is it just a rumour other people are saying its true others are saying its not,

does anybody no the truth on this.

Yes it's true, and it's being privately funded by Bernard Long. FFS.

as anybody heard that hock has signed a 5 year deal, i seen it on another site somewere but when i asked is it true some say yes others say its a rumour,

does anybody no the truth.


2nd time iv put this on y was it removed????

Its a rumour. Lock It.

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thanks cam

Hope not, would be a bigger mistake than when we signed Moran & Fresh

He cant sign for any club until his ban is over as he cannot have anything to do with a Rugby club until then

I would be happy if it happened

bet our completion rate is sky hgih compared to when hock plays and our errors are also much lower. his offloading is good to a point. too often he makes his mind up he is going to offload before he even gets in possession.

5 years - no chance, not with no idea how he will return in terms of form or anything.

I agree to an extent and his mistakes were frustrating at times but on his day he could be devastating and I think we miss an unpredictable forward like that. He always made things happen good or bad and the way Maguire has come in and improved players games already i'd have backed him to get more out of Hock.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm sure I remember IL saying that while Hock was banned from playing Wigan had retained his playing registration so once his ban has been served we have first refusal on offering him a new playing contract. Is this right or am I making things up?

I heard that last week

great punisment for druggies i see

Expecially when it happens at Wigan, eh?

Grow up, you Leyth cliche.

Yea, i posted it a few week ago, he has signed a new deal, no question, just not sure how long for.

I guess losing an estimated £300K - £500K isn't a punishment then?

That's quite a wide estimate margin. Do you fit windows?

From what Iv been told he has all but signed a 4 year deal when he returns, taking into consideration he keeps himself fit and focused to coming back fitter and better than ever. Hes currently training harder than he ever has and is really lean. Look forward to seeing him back

With the strength in our backrow and it is long term strength, I think as I have said on many times Hock needs to be brought back as a Prop. We have an ageing frontrow and Hock is currently in the position where he has an opportunity to have the best off season ever, namely 2 years of getting into the shape of his life.

As I understand it he has/is being bulked and he continues to do so. Physically he should be in the shape of his life when he returns and have more power than we have ever seen from him in the past, considerably so. What will be lacking will be his skills and the time it takes to get up to speed on that score will affect his return.

I personally think we could have a monster on our hands when he returns and as a Prop he could stick to the basics and still be a devastating player. I feel we will retain the services of Fielden, Coley and Feka on 1 year deals at the end on 2010, and perhaps bring in an overseas Prop. When Hock returns in 2011 he could form part of a formidable pack and float between Front row and Prop then move forward permanently in 2012 to replace Fielden or Coley long term.

It may sound daft but i feel his suspension could be the best thing to happen to him regards reaching his potential. I feel he was floating along and not looking ever likely to reach his potential IF he learns his lesson I feel he could kick on to become a World Class player, that he seemed capable of once being as a junior, but in truth never looked likely pre ban.

That's an estimate of losing his salary for two years circa £130K p.a. and a reduced contract if and when he returns.