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| God knows what happened with that post!!
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"I bet you can't name another Aussie young player of the year who couldn't tackle, never broke a tackle, and generally looked petrified every time he took to the field.
An truly awful player, in all respects. He brought nothing, and his leaving means nothing in terms of team performance.
And please don't regale me with tales of his "Awesome" passing ability, because I just don't buy it.'"
As usual Jack you change things again.
Here's what you said.
Quote ="Jack Kerley"Show and go?
When did Smith ever go?
He is one of the worst players I have ever seen in a Wigan shirt.'"
I merely pointed out that he wasn't.
Unless you are very young, which I don't believe you are you must have seen far worse players than Smith play at Wigan.
Paul Koli, Mark Reber etc.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"As usual Jack you change things again.
Here's what you said.
I merely pointed out that he wasn't.
Unless you are very young, which I don't believe you are you must have seen far worse players than Smith play at Wigan.
Paul Koli, Mark Reber etc.'"
I said, as you have repeated, that he is ONE of the worst players I have seen at Wigan.
Are you having trouble even understanding what you are posting?
Neither Koloi, nor Reber came with the reputation that Smith did, so the disappointment was not as great.
Please try to keep up.
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"I said, as you have repeated, that he is ONE of the worst players I have seen at Wigan.
Are you having trouble even understanding what you are posting?
Neither Koloi, nor Reber came with the reputation that Smith did, so the disappointment was not as great.
Please try to keep up.'"
Again, you change things.
Now it's his reputation.
There are a lot worse players than Tim Smith that have played for Wigan.
Do you agree?
A simple yes or no will do.
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| There have been far worse players than Smith in recent years.
That is a depressing thought because Smith isn't a very good player. He's very good at passing - when on form - but not very good at tackling or running at the line.
I can't believe anyone would refer to him and Andy Gregory in the same sentence, unless its to point out how much Smith needs to improve to be a great player.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Again, you change things.
Now it's his reputation.
There are a lot worse players than Tim Smith that have played for Wigan.
Do you agree?
A simple yes or no will do.'"
I repeat, yet again, Smith is ONE of the worst players I have ever seen at Wigan.
Nowhere have I stated that he is THE worst player I have ever seen at Wigan.
I will state now for the cheap seats that my views on Smith do not in any way prejudice what my views might be on any other poor player that Wigan have had in the last 30 years.
Is this clear to you now?
I have not changed anything, in any of my posts since I claimed that Smith was ONE of the worst players I have ever seen at Wigan.
I truly do hope you wake up enough to understand this stance.
thank you.
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| I take that as a yes then?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I take that as a yes then?'"
You can take it as whatever you like, as you don't seem to be able to make sense of a simple statement.
Tim Smith is ONE of the worst players that I have ever seen at Wigan.
Where does it say that he is THE worst player ever to play for Wigan? Where does it say that there are no worse players ever to have played for Wigan?
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how I could have been any clearer.
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"You can take it as whatever you like, as you don't seem to be able to make sense of a simple statement.
Tim Smith is ONE of the worst players that I have ever seen at Wigan.
Where does it say that he is THE worst player ever to play for Wigan? Where does it say that there are no worse players ever to have played for Wigan?
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how I could have been any clearer.'"
But surely that depends on HOW many you are comparing him against.
10, 20, 50, 100.
As I said I can name 20 worse players than Tim Smith who have played for Wigan.
But I also don't believe he has been one of our better ones.
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| Rogues. Why are you making such a big deal out of it. He said ONE of, to which you replied Tim Smith wasnt the worst player to play for wigan, but Jack never said that. Stop getting your knickers in a twist
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| When watching Smith you could see ever so faint sparks of a great player, however those sparks were few and far between, plus his defensive frailties particularaly in the early games of the season were nothing short of shocking. As for hiding his defensive weaknesses I though Gleeson did a good job of it, but in the end the guy didn't do enough offensively to warrant being in the team. I for one will be very interested to see how he goes in the NRL next year, and whether he improves in all area's.
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| Are people actually arguing in here about people's opinions on a player? Never seen that before!!
If it's someone opinion, it's simply that, how can that be an argument?
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"You can take it as whatever you like, as you don't seem to be able to make sense of a simple statement.
Tim Smith is ONE of the worst players that I have ever seen at Wigan.
Where does it say that he is THE worst player ever to play for Wigan? Where does it say that there are no worse players ever to have played for Wigan?
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how I could have been any clearer.'"
I agree. How people can try and defend his performances this season I will never know. Defensively he is the worst RL player I have ever seen. Yes in attack he has a good pass but thats about it. However even at this his good pass is nullified due to the fact that he has no running game at all, and an average kicking game, which thus makes him very predictable. Hopefully after what has happened with Smith, Mathers and Pryce, Lenegan will finally realise that these cheap risky signings are precisely that for a reason.
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| I LIKED HIM.....
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"You can take it as whatever you like, as you don't seem to be able to make sense of a simple statement.
Tim Smith is ONE of the worst players that I have ever seen at Wigan.
Where does it say that he is THE worst player ever to play for Wigan? Where does it say that there are no worse players ever to have played for Wigan?
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how I could have been any clearer.'"
sorry did you say the worst or one of ?
i agree with you tho he was SH~T to the highest standard ! but boy could he pass !
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"You can take it as whatever you like, as you don't seem to be able to make sense of a simple statement.
Tim Smith is ONE of the worst players that I have ever seen at Wigan.
Where does it say that he is THE worst player ever to play for Wigan? Where does it say that there are no worse players ever to have played for Wigan?
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how I could have been any clearer.'"
i dont understand your point......could you elaborate please.
do you mean Smiths the worst, or almost the worst, or havnt you seen worse?
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"i dont understand your point......could you elaborate please.
do you mean Smiths the worst, or almost the worst, or havnt you seen worse?'"
That must be one of the worst posts I have seen on here.
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"ah right...so to him Tim Smith is the "worst" and not "one of the worst".
i understand now
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No you don't, you are being deliberately obtuse, or just plain thick.
I really don't understand why people who can't read frequent internet forums.
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"No you don't, you are being deliberately obtuse, or just plain thick.
I really don't understand why people who can't read frequent internet forums.'"
so batesys wrong then?
tim smiths not the worst youve seen??
well who is then?
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| Would like to wish him all the best for the future. Met him a couple of times and is a really nice lad. Good luck.
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"so batesys wrong then?
tim smiths not the worst youve seen??
well who is then?'"
Jeez.
The state school system has a lot to answer for.
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"icon_rolleyes.gif
Jeez.
The state school system has a lot to answer for.'"
Do you not fancy just answering the question??
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| Quote ="Batesy"Do you not fancy just answering the question??'"
I have answered the question, about 6 times.
If you can't work out simple English, why should I bother answering it again?
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