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| That move and flick pass to Richards in the corner was awesome. Gutted Pat dropped it though.
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| I didnt think ST had a good game tonight.
There were a few occasions when he kept hold of the ball when we had men over out wide but he didnt pass. His weakness (IMO), although a great talent, is that he tends to be ball greedy.
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| Quote ="EastStandFaithful"I didnt think ST had a good game tonight.
There were a few occasions when he kept hold of the ball when we had men over out wide but he didnt pass. His weakness (IMO), although a great talent, is that he tends to be ball greedy.'"
he got man of the match, to say he had a poor game is ridiculous. not saying he was mom but he had a very good game
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| Quote ="EastStandFaithful"I didnt think ST had a good game tonight.
There were a few occasions when he kept hold of the ball when we had men over out wide but he didnt pass. His weakness (IMO), although a great talent, is that he tends to be ball greedy.'" Wow if you said this sunday night i'd agree but tonight he did what he should have 5 days ago
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| Quote ="EastStandFaithful"I didnt think ST had a good game tonight.
There were a few occasions when he kept hold of the ball when we had men over out wide but he didnt pass. His weakness (IMO), although a great talent, is that he tends to be ball greedy.'"
Sorry but you must have been watching a different game to me. Sam was outstanding tonight. Thevrun for the Goulding try was sublime.
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| he was involved with most of our best attacking play
I thought last week he kept hold of the ball too much, but again he is the one creating the tries, and often over ran the outside support play
however he is the one that can win us any game. he is the one that opposition fans are trying to wind up cos they know how good he is / what he can do
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| Quote ="jonh"Sorry but you must have been watching a different game to me. Sam was outstanding tonight. Thevrun for the Goulding try was sublime.'"
completly agree, sam was superb tonight. anyone that questions his pedigree when he has consistently performed in two very different positions shows his class. who else could do what he has done and performed so well
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| Best player in SL by a Mile....
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"Best player in SL by a Mile....'"
IMO.. not yet
But the most exciting and best prospect this country has had for as long as I can remember..
I even called my new born son after Mr Tomkins... I love watching him play rugby... its an absolute pleasure...
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| Quote ="WarriorSteve"IMO.. not yet
But the most exciting and best prospect this country has had for as long as I can remember..
I even called my new born son after Mr Tomkins... I love watching him play rugby... its an absolute pleasure...
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Name me a better one..
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| Proved doubters wrong tonight that said he shouldn't be in the running for MOS.
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"Name me a better one..'"
Lee Briers.... I don't know... IMO he needs a bit more maturity to take him to that next level... IMO he is the best fullback and the most dangerous stand off in SL, but does that make him the best overall player I am not sure. I think he needs to develop his kicking game a bit more. Pat Richards?
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| Quote ="lothlorian"he got man of the match, to say he had a poor game is ridiculous. not saying he was mom but he had a very good game'"
Sam was decent last night, he could become the best I will see given 9 or 10 years without serious injury. However he was second best in cherry and white last night.........Arise Sir Stuart of Fielden!
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| I still think he's not the best person to be the last man in defence. Even playing at half-back he's shown that he will create plenty of tries and score them. I would rather see Phelps or Amos at full-back creating an extra acttacking threat with Sam in at half-back, and Lockers back to 13.
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"Best player in SL by a Mile....'"
Definitely.
Was talking to a Saints fan in the pub and he said the same.
If Sam isn't MOS, it's an injustice.
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| One of his best games for us last night - much better than last week when, as others have said, he was too ball greedy - his step and dummy only works if it's used occasionally. He's such a danger he attracts defenders and that's when to release the ball.
Agree with Kat, still not sure about him at FB, he's getting smashed every 2 minutes and as good as he is there he's about 10 stone wet through and much bigger players can carry him over the line from close range. Perhaps Pat could defend at FB and slot into the wing in attack, and use Sam out wide in defence but slotting in as an extra man in attack, as a FB does.
He took a catch from the kick-off late in the first half and if you watch he keeps his hand stuck out, away from the ball - playing with a dislocated finger for about 15-20 minutes takes a special kind of daft lad.
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| We should thank the stars that he plays for us. If BN would have had his way, we'd have another aussie playing instead of Sam. The only other player that comes near him is Danny Maguire. If you look at Sean Edwards career, I think Sam is the better player. Can you imagine how he would have done in the Hanley era?
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| I have to admit I am a tad confused when it comes to ST.
I have in the past said that he shouldn't be FB on the basis that he is too small and will get run over, or worse still get hurt as he throws himself into the tackle.
I am now thinking that at FB he won't get targetted as much as he would at 6. The way he effectively comes in as an extra half in attack is very impressive and must present the opposition with headaches.
I am now unsure as to his best position, suffice to say he has bags of talent and is a joy to watch.
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| Quote ="Ovavoo"We should thank the stars that he plays for us. If BN would have had his way, we'd have another aussie playing instead of Sam. The only other player that comes near him is Danny Maguire. If you look at Sean Edwards career, I think Sam is the better player. Can you imagine how he would have done in the Hanley era?'"
Haha
Is this a joke?
McGuire is the most overrated player in SL. If he was an Aussie we would never have heard of him.
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| Quote ="Ovavoo"We should thank the stars that he plays for us. If BN would have had his way, we'd have another aussie playing instead of Sam. The only other player that comes near him is Danny Maguire. If you look at Sean Edwards career, I think Sam is the better player. Can you imagine how he would have done in the Hanley era?'"
It's SHAUN, and as yet, Sam is a million miles from being compared to him. A great and exciting player, i'm delighted Sam plays for us but he's not an all time great, he could become one!
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| Quote ="flyingkelvin"It's SHAUN, and as yet, Sam is a million miles from being compared to him. A great and exciting player, i'm delighted Sam plays for us but he's not an all time great, he could become one!'"
At the same age, I'd say Sam is better. That's not to belittle Sean, just an opinion. If you remember back then, Shawn came in for a fair bit of unwarranted stick, even from his own supporters. If you look at Sam, he doesn't give any supporters reasons to have a go. Shaun however did.
Still we all get it right in the end.
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| the run for Gouldings try was world class.
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| Quote ="Ovavoo"At the same age, I'd say Sam is better. That's not to belittle Sean, just an opinion. If you remember back then, Shawn came in for a fair bit of unwarranted stick, even from his own supporters. If you look at Sam, he doesn't give any supporters reasons to have a go. Shaun however did.
Still we all get it right in the end.'"
How many Shaun's
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| Quote ="Ovavoo"At the same age, I'd say Sam is better. That's not to belittle Sean, just an opinion. If you remember back then, Shawn came in for a fair bit of unwarranted stick, even from his own supporters. If you look at Sam, he doesn't give any supporters reasons to have a go. Shaun however did.
Still we all get it right in the end.'"
Very good I like what you did there
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