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| Quote ="MattyB"When someone comes across from the NRL with a reputation along with the tag line "wrecking ball" you'd at least expect that player to make the hard yards, bust tackles and require 3-4 opposition players to bring him down.
Steve 'zip zip man' Ella - we got what was said on the tin.
Steve 'The Pearl' Renouf - another classy player.
Whilst he went okay on Friday in parts, he should have been our 'go forward' in our time of need. However yet again the lesser named Tautai outshone him as he has done all season.'"
Bingo. I don't claim to be a expert in defensive structures but it appears to me that a lot of breaks/tries seem to happen through gaps either side of him as well. Cas looked like they were targeting him a lot due to his fitness.
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| If FPN is leaving at the end of the season this should allow a pay rise for Tautai, he deserves one, easily our best prop ATM.
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| Thought TT was leaving as well.
That's quite a bit of salary available for a replacement(s).
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| Quote ="MattyB"When someone comes across from the NRL with a reputation along with the tag line "wrecking ball" you'd at least expect that player to make the hard yards, bust tackles and require 3-4 opposition players to bring him down.
Steve 'zip zip man' Ella - we got what was said on the tin.
Steve 'The Pearl' Renouf - another classy player.
Whilst he went okay on Friday in parts, he should have been our 'go forward' in our time of need. However yet again the lesser named Tautai outshone him as he has done all season.'"
Add Greg "The Wall" Dowling to that list, FPN should watch a few DVD's of Greg playing.
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| FPN certainly hasn't lived up to his reputation, but I don't think he's been as bad as "some" have made out. For some reason he seems to be better in his second spell, and was very good at Wakefield when he wasn't used as the starting prop. Maybe a swap around, with Tautai starting, would help?
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| Quote ="hatty"Add Greg "The Wall" Dowling to that list, FPN should watch a few DVD's of Greg playing.'"
Now he WAS a prop forward. Happy days.
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| to be fair FPN was used mre as a 13 for most teams, maybe we should try him there
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| He's not as fit as he was when he was playing 13 for the Roosters. I see those pictures of him squaring up to Micky Mac and he looks in great shape compared to now.
As I've already posted I don't think he's playing too badly but there's no doubt he's got more to give. Him being fitter is a part of that imo.
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| Do we think that we'll bring another prop in?
Our front line props of FPN, TT, Sutton and Navarrette are decent enough, but i wouldn't mind seeing another body brought in to cover / rest guys if needed. Even if we signed a run of the mill type forward who isn't anything spectacular it would at least be another body in the squad - Gil Dudson seems to be in a bit of decent form, could he have a 2nd chance perhaps?
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"Do we think that we'll bring another prop in?
Our front line props of FPN, TT, Sutton and Navarrette are decent enough, but i wouldn't mind seeing another body brought in to cover / rest guys if needed. Even if we signed a run of the mill type forward who isn't anything spectacular it would at least be another body in the squad - Gil Dudson seems to be in a bit of decent form, could he have a 2nd chance perhaps?'"
I understand where you are coming from but IMO we the numbers in terms of props are ok with the guys you mentioned plus Bretherton and Lockers/J.Tomkins/Isa who can all drop in at prop once we have a full compliment of back rowers. I'd rather use game time on players who are going to develop and stay with us than ones we have already decided aren't good enough. They don't appear to be performing though, as they didn't this time last year to be fair.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"I understand where you are coming from but IMO we the numbers in terms of props are ok with the guys you mentioned plus Bretherton and Lockers/J.Tomkins/Isa who can all drop in at prop once we have a full compliment of back rowers. I'd rather use game time on players who are going to develop and stay with us than ones we have already decided aren't good enough. They don't appear to be performing though, as they didn't this time last year to be fair.'"
I'd probably agree with that under normal circumstances, but with our current injury situation i just think we need one more established SL level player to take the load off everyone & give us more options.
Like you said there's players than can drop in at prop, but we aren't far off a situation where we might see Lockers playing at 6 and one more injury in the backline means Joel or Isa being moved out of the pack. When that's happened in the past we've seen Flower move to 13 or Sutton has played in the 2nd row. We can't simply do that with only four front line props.
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"I'd probably agree with that under normal circumstances, but with our current injury situation i just think we need one more established SL level player to take the load off everyone & give us more options.
Like you said there's players than can drop in at prop, but we aren't far off a situation where we might see Lockers playing at 6 and one more injury in the backline means Joel or Isa being moved out of the pack. When that's happened in the past we've seen Flower move to 13 or Sutton has played in the 2nd row. We can't simply do that with only four front line props.'"
Am I right in thinking Macauley Davies and Kyle Shelford are still out on loan? Maybe we should look at recalling them. Is Connor Farrell still at the club?
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Am I right in thinking Macauley Davies and Kyle Shelford are still out on loan? Maybe we should look at recalling them. Is Connor Farrell still at the club?'"
I'm not sure, but not disrespect to the lads you can't just throw young props in for an extended run. It will probably give them some confidence, but i don't think it would help the whole team out.
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| Adam Blair and Kyle Amor and Jammer Graham please Mr Pollard
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| Kyle Amor, no thanks.
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| Aaron Wood from West Tigers would do
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| Quote ="hatty"Aaron Wood from West Tigers would do'"
very over rated for me, signs for the bulldogs next year
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| Jesse Bromwich could be available soon
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| Some great names being thrown about but with Williams and Tomkins in the marquee spots we're probably going to have to look closer to home or at some cheaper NRL options of we're signing a prop (or props).
Anyone know who's out of contract in superleague?
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| Quote ="Trainman"Jesse Bromwich could be available soon'"
Im not sure moving to Wigan to get away from a drugs problem is a wise move
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Some great names being thrown about but with Williams and Tomkins in the marquee spots we're probably going to have to look closer to home or at some cheaper NRL options of we're signing a prop (or props).
Anyone know who's out of contract in superleague?'"
[urlhttps://www.zerotackle.com/rugby-league/super-league/[/url
Not sure how accurate or up-to-date that is, but a few interesting ones on there. I'd definitely take Sims or Fifita or both if TT and FPN leave.
Also, I know he isn't a prop but I'd be trying everything to get McMeeken if he still hasn't signed a new deal.
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| Quote ="PurpleCheeseWarrior"[urlhttps://www.zerotackle.com/rugby-league/super-league/[/url
Not sure how accurate or up-to-date that is, but a few interesting ones on there. I'd definitely take Sims or Fifita or both if TT and FPN leave.
Also, I know he isn't a prop but I'd be trying everything to get McMeeken if he still hasn't signed a new deal.'"
When i read that i thought you meant Ashton Simms so i had to check, and you DID! He is one big girls blouse and he shouldnt be anywhere our team
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| Quote ="[Gareth"When i read that i thought you meant Ashton Simms so i had to check, and you DID! He is one big girls blouse and he shouldnt be anywhere our team'"
Tariq is the only one who's the real deal in my book.
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| Quote ="[Gareth"When i read that i thought you meant Ashton Simms so i had to check, and you DID! He is one big girls blouse and he shouldnt be anywhere our team'"
He couldn't bust a wet paper bag but he's skilful and has lovely hair.
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| Wouldn't fancy any of those. Fifita isn't within a country mile of his brother. He is sloppy and ill disciplined.
I wouldn't mind taking a punt on that bloke at Leigh called Hansen. Haven't seen much of him though.
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