You cheated, hence your punishment. Very simple.

What makes me laugh is when I pointed out that one of the times that Saints got done was due to payment made to international players, I was told to shut up and we cheated and our achievements in those years were null and void, despite the fact that why we did didn't affect our success that year. However I am supposed to accept the mitigating circumstances in the year that you broke the cap? Very hypocritical.

As have you, whats your point?

Like wise you continue to regurgitate old drivel in a lot of your posts in an effort to be controversial or just throw out a hook see what you can catch, yet everything you have posted has been shot down with facts. This troll needs to be banned he/she is nothing but a wind up merchant

Still finding it difficult to talk about the last five seasons YG, or does that not suit your trolling?

That was when Superleague went to a level salary cap i.e All clubs could spend up to the Max cap limit.

Saints cheated the cap a year in which they won the GF. Therefore that should have been removed like they would have done if it was Wigan, and Saints Championship count should be reduced to 11.

Are you really that thick?

Read DaveO's last post if you don't believe mine.

Wigan did NOT break the rules. There was NO rule preventing Wigan from doing what they did.

Frankly you should be thanking Wigan for taking the points deduction and not going to court because if they did they would have won the case and further undermined the RFL.

If Wigan had done nothing wrong, they wouldn't have been punished.

If Wigan genuinely believed they were innocent, they would have challenged the punishment.

I am not a troll. You can't ban someone for simply disagreeing with people. I am an opinionated person but I simply speak my mind and say what I believe. Apart from the odd blip I don't resort to personal insults either, unlike the barrage of abuse I regularly receive on here. If they banned me they'd have to ban a lot more besides.

How much do Saints still owe the taxman for their offshore/EBT scam. Perhaps YG should ask his chairman at the next Shareholders meeting. Oh hang on they haven't had one for about three years.

You tell me Rogues, you're the all-seeing eye of the accounting world aren't you?

Still a difficult one for you?

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"How much do Saints still owe the taxman for their offshore/EBT scam. Perhaps YG should ask his chairman at the next Shareholders meeting. Oh hang on they haven't had one for about three years.'" Rogues are you referring to this or is it another scam St Helens pulled www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/a ... e-payments

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"How much do Saints still owe the taxman for their offshore/EBT scam. Perhaps YG should ask his chairman at the next Shareholders meeting. Oh hang on they haven't had one for about three years.'" Rogues are you referring to this or is it another scam St Helens pulled www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/a ... e-payments

Quote ="tank123"Rogues are you referring to this or is it another scam St Helens pulled www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/a ... e-payments'" I think this is the one he is referring to.

Quote ="tank123"Rogues are you referring to this or is it another scam St Helens pulled www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/a ... e-payments'" I think this is the one he is referring to.

Yet you continue to disagree with people despite the overwhelming evidence put before you by certain posters on here, you must be one seriously thick skinned person or just plain dumb because your posts are deeming you as a troll / wind up merchant.

Speaking your mind is great , but there is a time to keep some thoughts in your head.

I am far from dumb. And yes I am thick-skinned, I don't let being in the minority deter me. This is an open forum where I am able to speak my mind, therefore I do.

As soon as I am presented with evidence to prove something I have said to be wrong, I will admit as much.

Any chance this can get back on topic please. Too many topics over the last couple of days have gone the same way - I can't imagine why. Deliberately derailing threads is against the AUP.

Once again this guy has derailed another thread.

Many Wigan fans are banned from the saints site merely for posting, yet this guy is allowed to continue here unabaited.

In all fairness mate, if you go back and read the whole thread then you will see it wasn't me who took this off-topic. Other people chose to bring Saints into it, not me.

I have done nothing wrong. If people choose to respond to an opinion of mine about Wigan with a comment about Saints, therefore derailing the thread, then that isn't my problem.

Haha. I have done nothing worthy of a ban.

from now on i think we should all ignore YG until she goes away

I am sure we have just been asked to stay on topic....

if you don't want to read the inane drivel from YG then just add it as "foe" that way you don't see the posts unless someone includes it as a quote